agctr Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 There has been quite a lot of talk on this site in recent weeks by our American and Australian members regarding the comparisons between the LibertyGT/LegacyGT/Liberty STi Vs the MPS or as known in the US as the Mazdaspeed 6. We have all seen the resutls, some we win some we lose but there doesnt seem to be much talk about big brother.... RX-8. What sort of competition does the RX-8 offer against the reg LibertyGT/LegacyGT or the Liberty STi (Oz Spec).... Anyone care to comment? Ada///M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prod Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 No competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agctr Posted January 22, 2006 Author Share Posted January 22, 2006 Ok, fair comment but care to provide a bit more detail ? Ada///M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prod Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 Well, at least for the USDM RX-8, it doesn't come close to the LGT in power. It does handle very well though. But the RX-8 would be closer to something like the G35C than the LGT. It technically has 4 doors, but it's not really much roomier than a 2 door coupe. The extra set of doors just make it eassier to get in. Also, it has essentially no trunk space when compared to the Legacy/Liberty. Not to mention it's AWD vs RWD. Yes, I looked at then before getting the LGT, but I'd consider my preferences unique. Cars I looked at before buying the Legacy (wagon): RX-8 350Z 2004 Outback H6 (wagon) 2004 Forester XT (came in 2nd to the LGT) 2004 325xi (wagon) This was back in 2004. Then when I heard rumors and saw pictures of the upcoming Legacy I decided to hold out for a while. I'm really glad I waited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilT Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 RX-8 is more like the little brother, between the MX-5 and the MS6. Power, there's no comparison. Practicality, there's no comparison. Handling, maybe something to write about. Otherwise there's no reason to put the two cars in the same category. Sounds more like one of KaaKaa mans threads. Double Award Winning Legacy GT Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mines Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 Rx-8 is more coupe than sedan. But if you were to compare, Rx-8 is the easiest car to go around corners fast and it revs to 9000 and... it just handles so well. The bad part, Reliability. Rotary engines need to be constantly maintained and they break down. finally They eat up oil/gas. I'd take the legacy because you can go fast without the impracticalities (just not as good as the rx-8 in corners of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agctr Posted January 22, 2006 Author Share Posted January 22, 2006 I honestly thought the power figures were a lot more. Just checked and its 177kW/235HP. So looks like the MPS/MazadaSpeed6 is the flagship. Thanks for the details. Ada///M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team23jordan Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 RX-8 has no torque, rotary engine that needs to be rebuilt around 80000miles, expensive insurance Legacy has powerful engine, easy to modify, reliable, SAFE, AWD, cheap insurance, LUXURY Perrin BIG maf intake Perrin Turbo Inlet HKS SSQV BOV Megan Racing header with UP (ceramic coated) HKS DP (WRX) DMH E-cutout Custom 3" catback UTEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderkind Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 DO a search, there has been lots of rx-8 threads back in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agctr Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 Thanks for all the info guys, was just curious incase any were at the track. Ada///M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxerGT2.5 Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 RX-8 has no torque, rotary engine that needs to be rebuilt around 80000miles, expensive insurance Legacy has powerful engine, easy to modify, reliable, SAFE, AWD, cheap insurance, LUXURY Your right on the torque. However, the rotary engine does not need to be rebuilt around 80K. If your talking about the FC and FD engines maybe, the renesis is a new breed and no one knows the long term reliability of them. It was designed with longevity in mind. As far as insurance goes, my Rx-8 was cheaper than my LGT. Interms of performance, the LGT wins on power hands down, but the LGT will not touch the 8 in the twisties. The 8 is a fun car to drive, because of it's superior handling, and nothing compares to the sound of hearing the engine spin! OBAMA......One Big Ass Mistake America! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mines Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I know a similarity... They are both milder models for their respective manufacturers. rx8<rx7 and Legacy<STI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderkind Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Your right on the torque. However, the rotary engine does not need to be rebuilt around 80K. If your talking about the FC and FD engines maybe, the renesis is a new breed and no one knows the long term reliability of them. It was designed with longevity in mind. As far as insurance goes, my Rx-8 was cheaper than my LGT. Interms of performance, the LGT wins on power hands down, but the LGT will not touch the 8 in the twisties. The 8 is a fun car to drive, because of it's superior handling, and nothing compares to the sound of hearing the engine spin! Let's try this with a full load of passengers up a mountain pass. I doubt that the rx-8 would have enough torque to get going fast enough. LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxerGT2.5 Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Let's try this with a full load of passengers up a mountain pass. I doubt that the rx-8 would have enough torque to get going fast enough. LOL! Still will outhandle the LGT. Once you get it above 5K your golden. OBAMA......One Big Ass Mistake America! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deimos Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Your right on the torque. However, the rotary engine does not need to be rebuilt around 80K. If your talking about the FC and FD engines maybe, the renesis is a new breed and no one knows the long term reliability of them. It was designed with longevity in mind. As far as insurance goes, my Rx-8 was cheaper than my LGT. Interms of performance, the LGT wins on power hands down, but the LGT will not touch the 8 in the twisties. The 8 is a fun car to drive, because of it's superior handling, and nothing compares to the sound of hearing the engine spin! I had an 88 turbo II FC that I traded on the LGT. It had 130k miles and was in great condition, inside and out and the engine ran great. Rx-8, great handler, fun car, but a little low on grunt, they should have turbo'd it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mines Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 The turbo is for the next gen RX-7. Once the Skyline GTR gets released everyone will jump on the bandwagon...hopefully (mazda rx7 and that toyota/lexus hyper car) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxerGT2.5 Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 The turbo is for the next gen RX-7. Once the Skyline GTR gets released everyone will jump on the bandwagon...hopefully (mazda rx7 and that toyota/lexus hyper car) Mazda will not re-release the Rx-7 when they have the 8 already in existance. It's like them scrapping the 3 and going back to the Protege. Will the release a Mazdaspeed 8, possibly. Will it have a turbo? 50/50 between a turbo and a supercharger. OBAMA......One Big Ass Mistake America! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mines Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 mark my words (I hope im not wrong) Mazda Will Release the RX-7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxerGT2.5 Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 mark my words (I hope im not wrong) Mazda Will Release the RX-7 Explain to me why they would take a step back? OBAMA......One Big Ass Mistake America! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agctr Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 I dont think its taking a stepback, its them using the tradition of a name. Ada///M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxerGT2.5 Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I dont think its taking a stepback, its them using the tradition of a name. Ada///M. Not when you run a series of cars in terms of production. Two words: 20B 3-rotor. OBAMA......One Big Ass Mistake America! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderkind Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 Didn't Mazdaspeed came out with a prototype turbocharged rx-8 a while back and the power output weren't too impressive? btw, when will she finish eating her M&Ms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxerGT2.5 Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 Didn't Mazdaspeed came out with a prototype turbocharged rx-8 a while back and the power output weren't too impressive? btw, when will she finish eating her M&Ms? No mazda didn't prototype a TC 8. Many wished they did, but no. and they're skittles! Taste the Rainbow OBAMA......One Big Ass Mistake America! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilT Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 I dont think its taking a stepback, its them using the tradition of a name. Ada///M. Manufacturers who use sequential numbers for their models would never take a step back in the sequence. It's like saying "our latest model was a failure, so we'll bring back the previous one. 3 words Not gonna happen ! Double Award Winning Legacy GT Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxerGT2.5 Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 Manufacturers who use sequential numbers for their models would never take a step back in the sequence. It's like saying "our latest model was a failure, so we'll bring back the previous one. 3 words Not gonna happen ! Thank you! OBAMA......One Big Ass Mistake America! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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