ji126652 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Hi Everyone, 2012 Subaru Legacy 2.5i with 97,500 miles. For only two days, when I started my car up, I heard a low rattling noise for just a minute or two when I hit the accelerator, kind of like in the first 5 seconds of but maybe a little lower. After this it went completely away After the second day I checked my oil dipstick and it was low so I topped it off with a quart, and now when I check it cold it's on the "high" end of the dipstick. Ever since doing this, I haven't noticed the noise even at a cold start before the car warms up, nor have I noticed any other noises. Any thought on what's up? It seems probably like an engine issue, and I'm guessing a timing tensioner issue, since they are (I think) oil pressurized (the logic being, adding more oil seemed to immediately fix the problem.) I definitely plan to get this checked out soon, but I won't be able to do this for another few days. I guess at 97,500 miles, I should just do an entire timing belt kit replacement!? Maybe I should check the timing belt ASAP before driving it to make sure it's OK and that the belt isn't stretched or frayed (looking through the viewing hole on the left side/taking off the timing cover on the right.) Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgoodhue Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 Hi Everyone, 2012 Subaru Legacy 2.5i with 97,500 miles. For only two days, when I started my car up, I heard a low rattling noise for just a minute or two when I hit the accelerator, kind of like in the first 5 seconds of but maybe a little lower. After this it went completely away After the second day I checked my oil dipstick and it was low so I topped it off with a quart, and now when I check it cold it's on the "high" end of the dipstick. Ever since doing this, I haven't noticed the noise even at a cold start before the car warms up, nor have I noticed any other noises. Any thought on what's up? It seems probably like an engine issue, and I'm guessing a timing tensioner issue, since they are (I think) oil pressurized (the logic being, adding more oil seemed to immediately fix the problem.) I definitely plan to get this checked out soon, but I won't be able to do this for another few days. I guess at 97,500 miles, I should just do an entire timing belt kit replacement!? Maybe I should check the timing belt ASAP before driving it to make sure it's OK and that the belt isn't stretched or frayed (looking through the viewing hole on the left side/taking off the timing cover on the right.) Thanks! The timing belt tensioner is isolated from the engine oil supply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moral hazard Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 Edit: disregard, thought the engine was FB25 and realised that 2012 was still ej25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ji126652 Posted September 6, 2021 Author Share Posted September 6, 2021 Edit: disregard, thought the engine was FB25 and realised that 2012 was still ej25. Yup, EJ253 for my 2.5i Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrD123 Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 I definitely plan to get this checked out soon, but I won't be able to do this for another few days. I guess at 97,500 miles, I should just do an entire timing belt kit replacement!?Yup - it's due! About right for mileage and into "overtime" for time. (I'd do belt, tensioner, idlers, water pump, thermostat, and plugs - also replace the serpentine belt since it has to come off to get the timing belt) Maybe I should check the timing belt ASAP before driving it to make sure it's OK and that the belt isn't stretched or frayed (looking through the viewing hole on the left side/taking off the timing cover on the right.)I'd just buy the parts and change everything out as it's due - at 75k miles a few months ago, the belt on mine definitely looked tired (they don't really "fray" per se - there was definitely wear on the teeth, though - idlers were still in decent condition (no real play) but the tensioner was definitely weeping fluid) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ji126652 Posted September 7, 2021 Author Share Posted September 7, 2021 Hi Everyone, 2012 Subaru Legacy 2.5i with 97,500 miles. For only two days, when I started my car up, I heard a low rattling noise for just a minute or two when I hit the accelerator, kind of like in the first 5 seconds of but maybe a little lower. After this it went completely away After the second day I checked my oil dipstick and it was low so I topped it off with a quart, and now when I check it cold it's on the "high" end of the dipstick. Ever since doing this, I haven't noticed the noise even at a cold start before the car warms up, nor have I noticed any other noises. Any thought on what's up? It seems probably like an engine issue, and I'm guessing a timing tensioner issue, since they are (I think) oil pressurized (the logic being, adding more oil seemed to immediately fix the problem.) I definitely plan to get this checked out soon, but I won't be able to do this for another few days. I guess at 97,500 miles, I should just do an entire timing belt kit replacement!? Maybe I should check the timing belt ASAP before driving it to make sure it's OK and that the belt isn't stretched or frayed (looking through the viewing hole on the left side/taking off the timing cover on the right.) Thanks! Just an update, I heard the noise again for a very brief moment after the car was driven for a while, but ONLY when I went in reverse, which now makes me wonder if the issue is the CVT (considering for my 2012 Subaru and I'm guessing other Subarus there was an extended 100k/10 year warranty issued.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ji126652 Posted September 7, 2021 Author Share Posted September 7, 2021 Yup - it's due! About right for mileage and into "overtime" for time. (I'd do belt, tensioner, idlers, water pump, thermostat, and plugs - also replace the serpentine belt since it has to come off to get the timing belt) I'd just buy the parts and change everything out as it's due - at 75k miles a few months ago, the belt on mine definitely looked tired (they don't really "fray" per se - there was definitely wear on the teeth, though - idlers were still in decent condition (no real play) but the tensioner was definitely weeping fluid) Thanks, will do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgoodhue Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 Did you just purchase this Legacy? Could the rattle be the heat shields? My 2009 2.5i OB makes some valve train noises on start up especially on cold days. The noise has been present since I bought it with111k miles (I wonder if the valves need adjustment), I now have 146k miles. I research on teh forum it seem somewhat common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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