Lowell_Greenberg Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 https://www.iihs.org/iihs/sr/statusreport/article/50/1/1 This article shows that at least for 2009-2012 models there were only ten cars with 0 death rates- and one of them was the Subaru Legacy. Vehicle safety is comprised of multiple areas- and probably a true safety rating should factor in: Crash worthiness in weight class Driver Assistance/Crash avoidance systems Headlights Emergency handling Braking/stopping distance Transmission and engine responsiveness. Jerky responses can result in driver miscalculation and unpredictable results Visibility Acceleration (adequate for typical driver tasks such as merging onto highways, steep/moderate hills, etc.) AWD- I believe that under "compromised" surfaces (rain, ice, snow, gravel, etc.)- the Legacy will offer more predictable handling- given suitable tires and good driver technique. And at any given time any surface is compromised. Interestingly, according to Consumer Reports in all of these areas, the Subaru Legacy excels.*As an aside, I consider CR to be the most objective and thorough reviewer of cars. Granted their overall rating may weight factors such as reliability and safety over performance and styling. If safety, reliability and fuel economy are key considerations when purchasing a family sedan, I think the Legacy does extremely well in safety, very good in reliability and good in fuel economy- with its extra weight, lower center of gravity and AWD improving the first (safety), with minimal sacrifice to the last (fuel economy). Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcEWoLF Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Subaru always been good safety cars, especially the last two gen with eyesight. Overall I’m very impressed with the safety portion of Subaru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeuEmMaiMai Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Subaru is very good at the safety and with eyesight standard on call cars now, they take it to a whole new level in terms of features vs price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyR Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Standard AWD and EyeSight make the Legacy a winner in its field. It actually looks pretty good as well. Honda and Toyota tried so hard to update their styling that I actually think the new Accord and Camry look a bit weird from some angles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowell_Greenberg Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 Standard AWD and EyeSight make the Legacy a winner in its field. It actually looks pretty good as well. Honda and Toyota tried so hard to update their styling that I actually think the new Accord and Camry look a bit weird from some angles.Funny on the styling...I agree with you. While I can respect the styling fluidity of the Mazda 3 and 6- the Camry and to a lesser degree Accord seem somewhat off. As for the Legacy, I think its styling connotes solidity and a conservative flair. But certainly all of this is highly subjective. Safety is less (subjective). Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippz249 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 A friend of mine was involved in a serious accident a few days before Christmas in there Forester. They rolled several times, every airbag engaged. only area that wasn't really vetted for safety was their sunroof. They had 2 dogs that flew out of it during the middle of the roll (Dogs were perfectly fine thank goodness). But I guess thats only a concern if you aren't wearing a seat belt. My friend and her husband came out with only minor bruising. But this incident just further justified my decision to get a forester for my wife and baby, and me the legacy. This was my friends vehicle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeuEmMaiMai Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 ^ the dogs going for a ride through the sunroof is not Subaru's fault. they do make dog harnesses that lock into the seatbelts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upstater Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Legacy's are safe cars, but for the top safety ratings the car has to be equipped with OEM HID or LED headlights, not halogens. Don't believe me, go look at the ratings: https://www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings/vehicle/v/subaru/legacy-4-door-sedan/2019 Legacy with halogen lights gets a Marginal rating for lighting. They don't test aftermarket HID inserts, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronic Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Legacy's are safe cars, but for the top safety ratings the car has to be equipped with OEM HID or LED headlights, not halogens. Don't believe me, go look at the ratings: https://www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings/vehicle/v/subaru/legacy-4-door-sedan/2019 Legacy with halogen lights gets a Marginal rating for lighting. They don't test aftermarket HID inserts, of course. Probably why all the JDM Legacy and Outbacks had factory HID from 2000. Even my old 2000 Outback H6 banger thats nearly scrap now has OEM HID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowell_Greenberg Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 Legacy's are safe cars, but for the top safety ratings the car has to be equipped with OEM HID or LED headlights, not halogens. Don't believe me, go look at the ratings: https://www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings/vehicle/v/subaru/legacy-4-door-sedan/2019 Legacy with halogen lights gets a Marginal rating for lighting. They don't test aftermarket HID inserts, of course.This is true, and if you feel LED steering responsive headlights are critical- you can purchase higher trim levels. Personally, with auto-high beam, I find the headlights on the Premium trim more than adequate. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyR Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Steering responsive LED lighting on the 2018 3.6R is superb. Auto-dim is icing on the cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubieN8 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 ^ I agree - The LED steering responsive headlights are AMAZING. I drove a 2019 Outback Premium for a loaner several months ago, and it was a huge difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk1233 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Steering responsive LED lighting on the 2018 3.6R is superb. Auto-dim is icing on the cake. Yep one of the main things that sold me on the car test driving at night. I don't know of another vehicle at the price point that offers it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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