T_Altland27 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I'm undecided about the epic springs of the swift springs I've heard a lot from my buddy who has the swift on his evo and Google searched both but I'd like to know from fellow legacy owners about them both I'm not looking to slam the car and I know swift is known for its handling reviews but I also heard with the stock struts your have a little bit more of a bounce then you will with the epic springs and I was told the swift springs give it a saggy butt and the epics don't can someone clarify what exactly the saggy butt is? Like I said before not looking to slam the car just looking for a little better handling and a slight drop I don't want the rear to drop any more then an inch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboboost Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Swifts are meant to be used with Bilsteins (SpecB, etc)- otherwise, they'll slam your car. Drop is ~2" which is a lot. Epics are what you're looking for - they'll significantly improve handling and drop only ~1". Consider replacing your stock struts too, as aftermarket springs may add stress and cause the stock struts to bust sooner. Koni yellows are the mainstay for many of us who go the aftermarket strut-spring route. Epics are hard to get - usually have to wait for a Group Buy if you can't find them in the For Sale section. H&R sport springs are another option - drop is ~1.3-1.5". Saggy butt is typically for wagons, causing a slight reverse rake, in which the front end is higher than the back. Saggy butt spacers (typically 1/4", 3/8", and 1/2") are used to even things out in the back. Sedans may use them too - I'm running a 3/8" saggy butt spacer with my Koni/H&Rs for a slight rake (front end slightly lower than rear). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_Altland27 Posted July 24, 2014 Author Share Posted July 24, 2014 Swifts are meant to be used with Bilsteins (SpecB, etc)- otherwise, they'll slam your car. Drop is ~2" which is a lot. Epics are what you're looking for - they'll significantly improve handling and drop only ~1". Consider replacing your stock struts too, as aftermarket springs may add stress and cause the stock struts to bust sooner. Koni yellows are the mainstay for many of us who go the aftermarket strut-spring route. Epics are hard to get - usually have to wait for a Group Buy if you can't find them in the For Sale section. H&R sport springs are another option - drop is ~1.3-1.5". Saggy butt is typically for wagons, causing a slight reverse rake, in which the front end is higher than the back. Saggy butt spacers (typically 1/4", 3/8", and 1/2") are used to even things out in the back. Sedans may use them too - I'm running a 3/8" saggy butt spacer with my Koni/H&Rs for a slight rake (front end slightly lower than rear). Thanks very much for the useful information I think I'll be going with the epics thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeraldG Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 I'd recommend the Epics as well is you don't want to lower the car over an inch. It is way better than stock springs. Contact Mike at Infamous performance and he should be able to help you out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_Altland27 Posted July 24, 2014 Author Share Posted July 24, 2014 Ok thanks again does anyone got any pics at all with the epics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micha3lchu Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 I did a writeup on Swifts for the Spec.B and I felt they were really awesome. Given another opportunity, i think I would have gone KWs though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_Altland27 Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 Can you use the stock struts at all I know you can with the swifts but I won't have the money for both springs and struts right now also does anyone have a picture of the epics or swifts on there car that they would like to share so I can somewhat get a visual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BarManBean Posted July 25, 2014 Moderators Share Posted July 25, 2014 Can you use the stock struts at all I know you can with the swifts but I won't have the money for both springs and struts right now also does anyone have a picture of the epics or swifts on there car that they would like to share so I can somewhat get a visual Swifts are designed for bilstein style struts, epics are for stock LGT style struts. Using either spring on completely stock struts (aside from spec.b bilsteins) is not recommended at all. Ride may be poor and you will experience premature wear of the struts. If you only have the money for one or the other, I would choose struts over springs. "Bullet-proof" your OEM TMIC! <<Buy your kit here>> Not currently in stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_Altland27 Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 Ok thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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