MAP Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 How does the crank pulley fail?? I remember how beefy it felt when I replaced my timing belt. Is it a rust issue for you guys in the cold areas from road salt? I would check that idler and AC to see if they are frozen/stuck. So did the belt rip up the timing belt as well? Did your engine shut off? If so, timing belt snapped, which likely means bent valves.. Good luck, Hope the timing belt is intact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve R. Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 How does the crank pulley fail?? I remember how beefy it felt when I replaced my timing belt. Is it a rust issue for you guys in the cold areas from road salt? If I can recall correctly, like most newer vehicles, the crank pulley is made of several pieces. You'd have a hub that mounts to the crank and then an outer ring for the belts to ride on with a hard rubber compound in between. If the rubber deteriorates it can crack/disintegrate and allow the ring to completely remove itself from the rest of the pulley or potentially just let the outer rings spin independent from the rest of the pulley. The rubber, as far as I am aware is mostly to combat NVH but not to really 'balance' anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAP Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 As far as I remember the pulley is all metal on these engines, no rubber, so where is it failing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAP Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I took a look at some pics of a couple pulleys for these. If there is any rubber it is a very thin piece connecting the hub to the portion driving the belts. Why would they even bother putting that little amount of rubber? OP i'd be interested to see pics of your pulley if it did fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaStaMooN Posted June 22, 2014 Author Share Posted June 22, 2014 I took a look at some pics of a couple pulleys for these. If there is any rubber it is a very thin piece connecting the hub to the portion driving the belts. Why would they even bother putting that little amount of rubber? OP i'd be interested to see pics of your pulley if it did fail. I think if you look through the pictures I posted, in one of them you can see the crank pull and it looks like the outer ring is pushed in.. I'm guessing that's it. The car was actually still running fine when this happened. I had to move it to the side of the road quickly as this happened at a light at a very busy intersection. Goes in the shop Tuesday, I'll find the extent of the damage. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk Jon - vBGarage Profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAP Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 So how many miles on the engine when this happened? Damn... Another thing to watch out for... If I would have known I might have replaced it when I changed the timing belt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 If not the crank pulley it might be one of the other pulleys that failed. And take a good look at the timing belt as well when you are there since damage to the cover can cause damage to the belt. The crank pulley can be replaced with a lightweight one which is from one solid piece, in which case that problem won't happen anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaStaMooN Posted June 22, 2014 Author Share Posted June 22, 2014 So how many miles on the engine when this happened? Damn... Another thing to watch out for... If I would have known I might have replaced it when I changed the timing belt... 103.5K miles. If not the crank pulley it might be one of the other pulleys that failed. And take a good look at the timing belt as well when you are there since damage to the cover can cause damage to the belt. The crank pulley can be replaced with a lightweight one which is from one solid piece, in which case that problem won't happen anymore. Getting the timing belt replaced regardless. Due at 105k, currently at 103.5K. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk Jon - vBGarage Profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaStaMooN Posted June 30, 2014 Author Share Posted June 30, 2014 Update.. So the quote came back... $1972 after tax n such. Items replaced.. 1038 Parts, 700 Labor... and other fees/taxes. AC Compressor Gates Timing Belt Kit New Timing Belt Covers New Crank Pulley New Accessory Belts New Idler Pulley Coolant Flush Recharge AC Most expensive part was the AC Compressor. Second was the Timing Belt replacement labor.. 3rd was the timing belts themselves. Really wish I could have spent that 2 grand on a new turbo and tuning like I wanted to. But NOOOOOOOOO! Jon - vBGarage Profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEE-OTTO Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 ouch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmedic Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 I'm a little confused as to how the AC condenser was damaged as a result of the crank pulley failing. It's on the other side of the radiator relative to the crank pulley and there's a decent air gap between them. . . crank pulley would have to go all the way through the radiator before it even touched the AC condenser. . .unless the radiator was also replaced but you just didn't mention it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaStaMooN Posted June 30, 2014 Author Share Posted June 30, 2014 I'm a little confused as to how the AC condenser was damaged as a result of the crank pulley failing. It's on the other side of the radiator relative to the crank pulley and there's a decent air gap between them. . . crank pulley would have to go all the way through the radiator before it even touched the AC condenser. . .unless the radiator was also replaced but you just didn't mention it. Crap.. I meant compressor! Lol Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk Jon - vBGarage Profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTris Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 I'm a little confused as to how the AC condenser was damaged as a result of the crank pulley failing. It's on the other side of the radiator relative to the crank pulley and there's a decent air gap between them. . . crank pulley would have to go all the way through the radiator before it even touched the AC condenser. . .unless the radiator was also replaced but you just didn't mention it. He also used compressor and condensor, so I'm not sure which one was actually replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaStaMooN Posted June 30, 2014 Author Share Posted June 30, 2014 Fixed my post. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk Jon - vBGarage Profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTris Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Figured. But it's not unfathomable to think that a condensor could run the same price as a compressor at a dealership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaStaMooN Posted June 30, 2014 Author Share Posted June 30, 2014 And they are made out of tin foil so it's conceivable. I went through 3 subaru condensers before replacing with an aftermarket unit which has worked great. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk Jon - vBGarage Profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaStaMooN Posted July 3, 2014 Author Share Posted July 3, 2014 Welp, there goes another 300 bucks. I had mentioned the car being fairly loud driving at speed which I figured was either my Tires (Michelin Pilot Sport A/S+, about 14k miles, 1.5 years old) or a wheel bearing or 2. They found that my drivers side rear bearing is shot. Expected as much. Really hope it quiets the ride down, though I think the tires are noisy also. Jon - vBGarage Profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob-2 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 It's just going to keep happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJuan Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 My driver side bearing was shot too, when I get up to freeway speeds, it would howl with a slight thumping sound. Replaced it over a month ago and it's perfectly quiet again. My wife's balls are delicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaStaMooN Posted July 3, 2014 Author Share Posted July 3, 2014 I'm guessing I got like 90k miles out of the original, I hope I have a new car before the next 90k tick by. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk Jon - vBGarage Profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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