GTEASER Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 stock or aftermarket? Call Mike at Infamous, he can give you the entire run down. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zee199969 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 So for the people that have replaced there clutch what did you do about your fly wheel? need answer asap. thank you I am running a southbend stage 2 daily with OEM flywheel. My shop said the flywheel just needed a resurface and could be reused. So far, 500mi of use with no issues. My "Build" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Knight Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 I'm going to go with the southbend stage 2. but I have 72K on stock flywheel that has been slipping for the last two years. Now if I get new OEM how long will that last and if I want a bit more power will the OEM hold me back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebo03 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Your flywheel should be fine as long as it can be resurfaced within spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acumenhokie Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 resurfaced OEM is fine with Southbend stg. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackal8788 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I used the ACT HDSS and resurfaced my OEM flywheel. No issues. VF54 to 20G to VF54 to 18G build thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Knight Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Okay got car back this afternoon with resurfaced oem flywheel and Southbend stg2. First thing was the clutch pedal fell to the floor. It's so light. I stalled the car once on the way home. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zee199969 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 ^ I had the exact same experience with the clutch pedal. Was worried something was wrong at first lol My "Build" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellesedil Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 So, let's say you've purchased this $577.50 clutch. What else is involved, cost-wise, to install it and resurface the OEM flywheel? Just need a ballpark to plan for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swannee225 Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share Posted September 11, 2015 After having my stg 2 comp clutch with light weight flywheel. I will definitely be going a different route next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Knight Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 So, let's say you've purchased this $577.50 clutch. What else is involved, cost-wise, to install it and resurface the OEM flywheel? Just need a ballpark to plan for. I just had that installed a month ago and as said before just get these bolts: Pressure plate bolts (6): 800508310 Flywheel bolts (8): 800610750 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zee199969 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 So, let's say you've purchased this $577.50 clutch. What else is involved, cost-wise, to install it and resurface the OEM flywheel? Just need a ballpark to plan for. Resurfacing the OEM flywheel shouldn't cost too much. Mine was $40 to resurface. I also went ahead and got the Tranquil TSK-3 throw out bearing kit. My "Build" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackal8788 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 So, let's say you've purchased this $577.50 clutch. What else is involved, cost-wise, to install it and resurface the OEM flywheel? Just need a ballpark to plan for. I had mine installed for $350 and I also changed the fluid at that time. My resurfacing was $50. VF54 to 20G to VF54 to 18G build thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zee199969 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I had mine installed for $350 and I also changed the fluid at that time. My resurfacing was $50. My install ran about the same amount. The local dealers were asking about 900-1100 just for labor My "Build" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLGT408 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Im in the market for a clutch and am leaning towards the stg 2 Southbend, but I am curious if anyone running a southbend stg 3? If so how does it compare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellesedil Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Im in the market for a clutch and am leaning towards the stg 2 Southbend, but I am curious if anyone running a southbend stg 3? If so how does it compare? I now have the same question. Is there any reason that I'd be interested in going up to the stage 3 clutch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojorios Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Whelp. Began looking into this and I have no idea which route to go. From the performance shops I called by me, it's looking like around $600-700 in labor. Now I also don't know which clutch to go with. I was looking at the southbend stage 2. I'm just wondering how it would hold up with stage 2/ets headers/e85, with a possibility of a turbo upgrade in the far future (at least a year). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellesedil Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Whelp. Began looking into this and I have no idea which route to go. From the performance shops I called by me, it's looking like around $600-700 in labor. Now I also don't know which clutch to go with. I was looking at the southbend stage 2. I'm just wondering how it would hold up with stage 2/ets headers/e85, with a possibility of a turbo upgrade in the far future (at least a year). You'll probably want to go with the South Bend Stage 3, or an ACT HDG6. When I was selecting my clutch (to be installed a week from today), South Bend told me that the Stage 2 and Stage 3 clutches are the same clutch, it is just the pressure plate that is different. I ended up going with the ACT HDSS, but I'm not on E85 and have no plans to go on it. Cobb Surgeline is doing my install and labor is going to be about 750. The HDSS clutch kit is about 620ish, and then I also got the TSK3 snout kit from Infamous Performance for 160. So I'll have about 1500 invested in just the clutch install, which is pretty much why my exhaust install and stage 2 protune is getting postponed until next year. Check out acumenhokie's thread on this very issue, as it sounds like you're heading towards a similar situation as him, even if you don't quite reach his power levels: http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/another-clutch-bites-dust-options-400whp-400wtqi-243569.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojorios Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Yeah, I took a look at all the clutch threads I could find. And none made it easier, but harder to make a decision lol. Reality is, that I have no idea how often I would run E85. But since I would be getting a protune, I might as well get a map for it as well. I have a few gas stations on my daily commute that I can get some. I am leaning towards the south bend, just based off of reputation and it seems like it has a very oem like feel to it. I just am not sure if I should go stg2 to save some cash or stg3 for the occasional e85. I know if I definitely were to upgrade the turbo the stg3 would be a no brainer. Dropping another $1500 on it really puts a damper on plans big time. It seems that by the time I can do what I want, I'll probably be almost at 100k and the engine will probably die on the dyno or shortly after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellesedil Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I would think that you'd want a clutch that can handle the most power you expect to put down during the clutch's life. If you spend 20% of the year on E85 and are putting down 350+ ft-lbs at the wheel, you'll probably want a stage 3 or comparable clutch I'd guess (I'm not a mechanic or any kind of clutch expert - this is just based on what info I've been able to research and attempting to apply it). I have no idea what the engagement is like for South Bend clutches (or ACT clutches for that matter), but I do know that the pressure plate is a lot stiffer with the South Bend stage 3, so you'll notice that in the clutch pedal. Based on what I've read, it will be comparable in pedal feel to the ACT HDSS clutch kit. I went with the HDSS for two reasons: it more than covers my power goals while I would have some uncertainty with the South Bend stage 2 clutch when I'm eventually ready to upgrade my intercooler, and Cobb Surgeline carries ACT clutches and was able to price it lower than I would have been able to get online and much cheaper than the South Bend stage 3. I don't know if my concerns with power levels on the South Bend stage 2 clutch are founded or not, and there's no way to know for sure without trying it, but I didn't really want do another clutch replacement in 40k miles, so I went with a higher rated clutch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojorios Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Yeah, that's why the stg3 keeps popping into my head. Rather be safe than sorry. Anyone in the NY Queens/LI area that has replaced their clutch that can recommend a good shop? I've reached out to Vinnyten, PAS & MRP so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutchard Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 If I was going to go through it again, I probably would've gone for the ACT HDG6 instead of the HDSS for my E85 setup. Don't forget to factor in the cost of injectors and a fuel pump if you're going E85. WBO2 gauge is highly recommended as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojorios Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Yep, already have the pump, injectors, WBO2 gauge, one step colder plugs, header, replacement gaskets and wastegates. DP should be in tomorrow. Just curious, how often during the year do you run e85 vs 93? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutchard Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 E85 all summer, 93 all winter. Switching between the two is a pain in the ass without a drain plug in the gas tank... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojorios Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I was always under the impression that you can switch when your gas light goes on, I can go fillup with 93 or e85, change the map right before turning it back on and carry on. So you have to fully drain/siphon it every time you switch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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