jeffy2.5xt Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 im planning on doing my ball joints here in the near future......uughh. just curious before i start to source my parts, is there any real benefit to buying say some whiteline pieces over some moogs or something of that nature. not sure on pricing difference but im going to assume that wl bits would cost a few extra dollars. not really looking to build out a race car suspension or anything but certainly wouldnt mind gaining a little extra durability and performance for a few extra dollars if im doing the job anyways. experiences and opinions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 The Whiteline ball joints are part of the roll center correction kit, which puts the suspension and steering geometry back into the correct position after lowering the car. This reduces body roll in the front end by shortening the distance between the roll center and the center of gravity, and reduces the bump steer effect. The benefits become more pronounced the lower the car is from factory spec. When I was lowered on Swift springs (~2.1" drop up front) there was a marked improvement from installing the kit. I generally recommend it for anyone running any of our available lowering springs, or even coilovers with a mild drop. I still run it with my Bilstein coilovers, which lower the car ~1" from stock. Hit me up for a quote if you decide to go the Whiteline route, or OEM. I don't supply Moog but have had good success with their endlinks on street driven cars. The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theflystyle Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Just out of curiosity whats the model # for those WL BJs? I just checked their website and it didnt have any listed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Kca313 is the roll center correction kit. Comes with ball joints and outer tie rods. The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Underdog, can you PM me a price for the KCA313 shipped to 94598? GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Underdog, can you PM me a price for the KCA313 shipped to 94598? Done! Thanks for the inquiry! The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboCool Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Can you use the whiteline kit with stock springs? Or will the tie rods be too long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 no point to using them since, with an non-lowered car, it moves the tie rods and LCAs out of normal operating ranges. if your suspension is at stock ride height, dont waste you $$ on aftermarket parts you dont need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BX77 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Whitetiger I had my car lowered and had WL Kit. but went back to stock springs, Is it ok to use the WL kit with stock springs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 it might be ok, but the WL joints are now farther out of their normal operating range and they make noise and wear out faster. this happened to me over the winter when i took my coilovers out to service them. i had my stock struts/springs in and the ball joints started making a ton of creaking noise since they were always at and angle and the grease couldn't circulate through them properly. ended up having to get new ones since they developed some play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BX77 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Then that would explain this? http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/popping-sound-turning-wheel-226725.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 yep. best way to know for sure is to put you hand on the ball joint while a friend turns the wheel back and forth alittle to make the noise. you will be able to feel the creking in the ball joint. car should be full on the ground with full normal load on the suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BX77 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I only get on one side and only when wheel is turned fully, sounds and feels like a pop. Jeffy2.5xt sorry to Highjack your thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 if something is making noise, you should be able to feel it by putting you hand on the component as it happens to pin point it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BX77 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Ok thank you for the info Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05LGTLtd Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 I put the white line kit in when I had coilovers. That was 70k miles ago give or take. Now I have Koni's/Epics in place on the wagon. Went to have my new tires mounted and drivers side Ball joint is getting loose. So I need to decide If I buy a new new WL bump steerkit, or go back to stock replacement parts.. Time being the deciding factor, Local parts let me Change it this weekend, and get an alignment next week. I wont have as much free time next weekend either... Major difference between the two with the Epic springs? Or just save some cash and make it all simple buy getting it done this weekend? All I need now is a hill holder and a center passing light... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05LGTLtd Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Well, I went and bought Moog BJs and went back to the stock tie tod ends. Not a good idea. I'm getting contact with the sway bar to the tie rods. Shifted swaybar, now it's less but still there. Just re-ordered the roll center kit from FredBeansParts, good price thanks, and will take it all back apart again. Grrr. Oh, and another alignment, yipee! All I need now is a hill holder and a center passing light... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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