06Obsidian3.0RB

Yeah I have been reading and usually I find an answer that way like I did with the rsb and avo brackets and everything else I'm doing. But this time there was less consensus and more vagueness in what I read. And most post were pretty old. Decided I needed to ask some direct questions. But, like you say. Not much action here anymore.

King springs have come on sale. I can do the kyb and kings springs combo for $750. This is the cheapest avenue open to me. Kings I have options: 30 mm lowered front and std rear (can use a spacer in front). 30 mm lowered front and rear. Not really looking to lower it. Has spec b 18's and is pretty low anyway. Anyone have experience with king springs? Or kyb king spring combo?

Yes ez30 spec b but we had to ditch the worn bilsteins years ago. Replaced with regular 3.0R struts which are same as GT I believe. Australia

I think kyb struts and King springs will probably give the 'sporty street' road feel I'm after. The thing is currently very soft. When it comes to Subaru's yes I agree kyb have a good reputation. From what I read Sachs are softer but who knows in this case. I was talking to someone today about the limited strut choices for these vehicles. He was surprised there was not 6-12 options like most cars. For most vehicles we can get 'Monroe GT's' which are a firmer shock which gives a really nice sporty feel and is priced regularly. But not available it seems in this case. I'm still tempted to get some used bilsteins but really these guys have priced themselves out of the market now compared to coil overs. Bilstein want $600 pair to do seal's and oil. Which is ridiculous. In reality I have more choice in coilovers, probably about 8-10 options ready to ship. I don't have access to fortune but from what I have seen the HSD dualtech is a very decent street option. It's a low pressure dual tube so it's a street strut. I might give them a call tomorrow and see what they have to say for themselves.

Awesome thanks! If I go a more expensive option then I will probably just go the dualtechs with a 5kgF/7kgF springs. Soft by coilover standards, but still former than stock. Anyway. The sale price on the b4's is $786. $300 more thank kyb and enough for a set of king springs One option I forgot to mention. I can get Sachs for $500/set. How does Sachs compare?

LOL You been reading my mind? I ordered a 20 mm whiteline rear bar this morning. Already have superpro LCAs. This is all part of a planned suspension and brakes revamp which started with a torn front outer cv boot. Figured while I'm in there should also replace the tired struts. So your saying the black bilstein b4 (not yellow b6) is far superior to the kyb's?

Honestly, compared to bilsteins ($2000) or konis ($1350 inserts only) coilovers are actually an option. I can get a set of hsd dualtech coilovers delivered for $1250 with softer springs. Is there a difference (if any) between kyb excel g and bilstein b4? I have read the kyb excel g is a bit firmer than the oe strut. Can anyone confirm this please? I can currently get on sale a full set of kyb excel g for $487 delivered but I need to move fast.

No one has ever done struts on their legacy?

Hi there, The original bilsteins were well dead by 200,000 and were replaced with low mile used on struts from a 3.0R which I understand were same as GT. Now at 250,000 and 6 years later the oe 3.0R struts are worn out. Not blown out but not controlling the car correctly. Changing lanes etc. Can feel rocking. It's time for new struts. The oe struts were actually pretty good but something sportier would be nice. Not looking to lower it as on our worse roads it does already bottom out occasionally. I'm wondering what people have done and feedback. At the entry level I'm looking at kyb Excel g or a bit more $$ for bilstein b4. Kyb cheapest is $600 set while b4 is $800 set. I will probably get new springs but only std height option is king springs at $400. >>> How does the KYB Excel G and Bilstein B4 compare to each other, and to the oem 3.0R struts? I can go back to the stock bilsteins but this is an expensive option. I can get a used set here for around $600 shipped, and then run the risk of them being blown. I can get bilstein to rebuild them but that is starting at $600 + shipping. And at the end of the day they were an improvement over stock but by no means a natural wonder. By the time I'm at $1200 + I'm at a set of HSD dualtech coilovers with custom spring options warranty and parts support. It's my wife's car and she would rather return the original bilstens but they're potentially an expensive option for what is in my view slight gains. Replacement b6 bilsteins are definitely out. That's a solid $2000 option. I've also seen Gabrielle ultra struts but don't know anything about them.

Lucky break. If it's still making noises for example on full lock after start up then there's air trapped in the system. There's a purge procedure.

I went through this a few months ago. Apparently no there is no h6 ps pump seal kit aka mr subaru on utube. My fix was in the end ps fluid with magic ingredients and turning full lock to get out the air. Actually this may be your solution. Have you tried purging your rack. Its easy.

We all must realise summer tyre typically refers to tyres developed with summer in places like Scotland, Norway, Russia, North Japan etc. In mind. Their design temperature range is typically from zero 0c or a bit lower to 40 or 50. And are designed for all weather types which may be encountered in 'summer' in the above mentioned countries . Some are notorious for really bad summers. So a good summer tyre is not just designed for a nice summers day, but also an early spring sleet.

Hey you said it. Were arguing about $1000 to $2000 tyres on 20 year old $3000 sh1t boxes. We keep my wife's car for when she has to go to a poor neighbourhood. Honestly falken fk520's are overkill.

Post wasn't directed at you. It was answering OP's query and the Florida man who revived the thread. PS4s has a excellent reputation if you like it stick with it. This is a good comparison of the SS vs 4s: In answer to the OP and Florida man the tyres I'd consider as real street/track UHP summer tyres are: GY SS PS4s Continental Sport Contact 7. And by this I mean real treet tires which will handle rain and not die if used on a track.

I don't even understand why people who run DWS year round are even participating in a thread about true UHP summer street/track tyres.

Simple tyre currently has Goodyear Eagle F1 Supersport in 225/40 18 92 Y for $227.99 each. https://simpletire.com/brands/goodyear-tires/eagle-f1-supersport#curationPos=none&curationSeq=none&curationSource=none&itemId=237534&mpn=112070591&pageSource=PLP&productPos=none&region=r9&tireSize=225-40rr18&userRegion=9&userZip=89119&zip=89119 These are an excellent true UHP Street/Track tyre and are a direct competitor to the 4s. However have a better sportier steering feel. Honestly if your looking for a street track tyre UHP you would be nuts to pass these up at that price. We have these on our 3.0R spec b. And honestly are more tyre than the car needs.

Have a look at tyre reviews on utube for his UHP tyre reviews before purchasing your next set. Other manufacturers have caught up.

Mevotech or Superpro (on sale). Pick your favourite. My superpro rear bushings are not solid like I think the Nolathane are. More like a multipiece pillow ball with the inner part forming a sliding joint similar to a pillow ball. It's hard to explain but it isnt a solid piece of neoprene. There is two parts and some play designed in. Superpro and Whiteline/Nolathane are both Australian and we consider them interchangeable. They are direct competitors, with one being a copy of the other (cannot remember which). One was probably started by ex employees of the other out of spite. Superpro is the most popular in home country. Superpro warehouse is about 45 minutes from my house if that makes any difference. Whiteline started out in sway bars. It's normal to go Superpro bushings and whiteline swaybars with king springs.

Mevotech has the solid hardened rubber like the WRX and old school (Group C?)? I don't think the superpro has a huge increase in NVH over solid hardened rubber but some people report a difference. It is still flexible and you can indent with your thumb nail. Later years went solid rubber with spherical bushings so possibly not a high impact area NVH. I don't think he will notice a difference.

I have not fit them yet but the Superpro steel LCA's look nice. All apear to be quality parts.

No one has the McIntosh system?

Do you have personal experience with the PS4/PS4s difference? I am curious if there is a huge jump to the S. I can only talk to my own experience. Personally I have cars with PS4, GY Assymetric 5, Assymetric 6 and GY SuperSport. I hate the PS4. They're made in China. The Assymetric 6 were cheaper than PS4 and are made in Germany and are a beautiful tyre. They are on a BMW M Sport and compliment the car beautifully. Rim protection is great and the car is unflappable. The GY Super Sports are on the 3.0R Spec B and are wonderful and handle superb, however I recommend the Assymetric 6 is the better road tyre due to wear and wet weather performance. Just looking at the premium to go from GY the PS4S I personally don't see the merit given how happy we are with the GY products. A direct comparison would be PS4 to Assymetric 5. I bought Assymmetric again. It has better rim protection, made in Germany, better steering response and sportier more nimble handling. For street car I wouldn't look at the GY SS or the PS4s. Unless autocrossing. There is a good Continental the UC6 which are on my parents car a Mazda SP23 which have done well.

Nah I have Michelin PS4 on my old daily. Sticky but feel like a pair of Converse chuck Taylor all stars. The Goodyears are much much better in terms of steering feel and feedback and ride quality. GY feel like Nike runners compared to Michelin PS4. I'd go conti sport contact 7 if I was going to a different brand.

Where I live we cannot even get all season or winter tyres. It doesn't drop any lower than 8 C on the coldest night other year. Everyone runs summer tyres all year round. Recommend Florida is the same. I hear dws are very good though. Everyone seems to like them.

We've been running Goodyear Eagle F1 and love them on our fleet. My wife's 06 Legacy has SuperSports while her M Sport has Assymetric 6's. I recommend the Assymetric 6. Way better than the PS 4 on my old daily.