Penguin

With as much as you shoot you could have bought a new gun with the money you saved.

 

I can reload 100 rounds faster than I can drive to walmart and for half the cost.

 

Nearest Walmart is 50 minutes away. In the time I could drive there and back I can easily crank out 400 rounds of pistol ammo, and that is running the XL650 conservatively. I've done about 500 an hour a few times but don't like working that fast. Your Square Deal B would be right there too if you're in the groove and gets good work rhythm going.

I agree to a point, but as a reloader I have some capacity to mitigate ammo panics on my own.

 

A large or medium frame revolver with a 3" or 4" barrel (maybe even a 5") in .357 Magnum is also a great gun to have when ammo shortages are a thing. Shoots two different cartridges that are almost always available, has ample power, can be concealed in a good holster with appropriate clothing, and most of them are quite accurate. A 7 shot L frame or 8 shot N frame stoked with .357's run by a competent individual is still a force to be reckoned with.

Really thinking of simplifying my handgun lineup.

 

Only really want to for sure keep my Freedom Arms .454/.45 ACP and Benelli .22 match pistol.

 

Everything else is subject to reconsideration. Might consolidate down to maybe only 2 centerfire semiauto pistols. I don't compete anymore due to lack of time, so multiple pistols suitable for different games doesn't make a ton of sense. Maybe try to find one sized for carry and another for a primary range gun. Really really eyeing the Wilson Combat EDC X9 as the answer to the carry gun.

 

Maybe I'll just suck it up and buy the Wilson and get rid of nothing... just feels stupid having guns that don't get shot hardly ever. My 9mm's are taking over, but none of them are particularly special. Functional and good tools, but not particularly compelling to shoot.

So my dad bought a Remington R51, not sure why.... anyhow shot it today since my parents are visiting. Gun ran just fine, he has close to 850 rounds through it with no issues. Probably getting rid of it because he doesn't like it. Which I could have told him if he would have listened. Very uncomfortable to shoot if you grip the pistol as high as possible. The short beaver tail has sharp edges that dig into your hand, ******* sucks. Whoever designed it clearly has never shot a semiauto pistol at all. **** that thing. Trigger has no discernible reset, it's big for such lame capacity, and the sights suck shit through a straw.

 

On the plus side his new S&W 986 Pro Series (bought at my suggestion) is hilarious. Very fun to shoot and quite accurate. Double action pull could use some cleanup in my opinion since it's not a full Performance Center gun, but still quite shootable. Personally I prefer an N frame since my hands feel cramped on the K/L frame grip frame. Still a fun gun, recommended!

So my dad bought a Remington R51, not sure why.... anyhow shot it today since my parents are visiting. Gun ran just fine, he has close to 850 rounds through it with no issues. Probably getting rid of it because he doesn't like it. Which I could have told him if he would have listened. Very uncomfortable to shoot if you grip the pistol as high as possible. The short beaver tail has sharp edges that dig into your hand, ******* sucks. Whoever designed it clearly has never shot a semiauto pistol at all. **** that thing. Trigger has no discernible reset, it's big for such lame capacity, and the sights suck shit through a straw.

 

On the plus side his new S&W 986 Pro Series (bought at my suggestion) is hilarious. Very fun to shoot and quite accurate. Double action pull could use some cleanup in my opinion since it's not a full Performance Center gun, but still quite shootable. Personally I prefer an N frame since my hands feel cramped on the K/L frame grip frame. Still a fun gun, recommended!

Just to clarify a bit more, since I'm at my computer and not on my phone trying to make it cooperate with writing a word fort.

 

I didn't invent this, but I really like it for a trained gun handler as a pre-combat, or pre-match stage, pre-duty check of your firearms. As taught to me most recently by Pat McNamara.

 

Pistol:

 

1.) With a loaded magazine load the pistol by inserting the magazine firmly until it clicks into place, pull on it to ensure it is seated. Run the slide back and let it go allowing the pistol to strip the top round and chamber it.

 

2.) Press check the slide back until you can see or feel the round in the chamber. The ability to feel for a round in the chamber is beneficial in low lighting conditions. Let the slide forward and bump the rear of the slide to ensure it is seated in battery. If you are running a single action pistol now is when you engage the safety, or de-cock a DA/SA pistol.

 

3.) Drop the magazine and top it back up. Reinsert magazine firmly and ensure it is securely seated.

 

4.) Press out to target in a safe direction and get a sight picture. If you have any lights or lasers now is the time to toggle them on to check for function. This last step establishes your sights, light etc are present and in working order.

 

5.) Re-reholster the pistol for the last time.

 

6.) If you are carrying spare magazines do a centerline sweep and check all your magazines to ensure they are loaded, then reinsert firmly into the mag carriers to ensure they stay put.

 

This can be accomplished very quickly but is a good way to make sure at a glance that your gear is ready to go.

 

For the rifle you do the same thing, including the sight picture to make sure any optics you have are working properly. The only real differences are on an AR you can bump the forward assist, and close the ejection port cover. To that I would add that if you are running a sling now is a good time to make sure the sling is firmly attached.

 

Just quick checks to make sure you don't eat shit at a match or even worse in a fight because of simple shit you could control beforehand. Prior planning prevents piss poor performance.

 

To BDII's point about training and shooting enough to be able to feel or hear the gun functioning correctly he's right too. Obviously doing press checks in the middle of a gun fight is probably not viable, you're going to be reloading as fast as possible relying on subconscious level skill built up through repetition to let your body work while your brain tries to solve your problem. At this point you need to know what normal operation feels like and sounds like. For example you need to know the distinct feeling and sound of your pistol or rifle locking back on an empty magazine. The only way to get there is to get out and shoot, which will also tell you if your gear is worth a shit. If you have a rife or pistol that chokes all the time get rid of that bastard, whatever you decide to run it needs to feel and sound the same way all the time under normal operation. If you have magazine carriers that don't have good retention or that are hard get to, find ones that work.

I'd vet most any instructor on how much stress they give to fundamentals. I know everyone wants to shoot fast, and do all the cool tacti-cool ninja operator shit but until you learn and master basics of trigger control, grip, sight alignment, and sight tracking... all the other shit is just a distraction.

 

So a stress on fundamentals and accountability/marksmanship.

^ Win.

 

You said that so much better than I can.

 

Not so much "win" as just trying to clarify. PatMac's procedure is pretty solid.

 

I also had a company 1stSgt my last years in the USMC (reserves) who's day job was firearms and tactics instructor for the Arkansas State Police, as well as being on their SWAT team. He was big on this sort of check too, I guess shooting meth monkeys in the face a few times and serving felony warrants all the time made him sharpen up. Even if he was a humorless asshole at times.

Do you spend much time around new shooters?

 

I hate to have to say this, but if you need to press check to confirm your pistol is loaded you need training. I can feel it in the way the slide closes. I can feel it in the way the magazine feels when I check its seating.

 

Press checks are a quick way to DQ in IDPA and USPSA.

 

I shoot about 10k pistol rounds and I never press check and never not have a round in the chamber. Does that mean I pull the slide back and every time it catches a round? Nope. Like I said. I can feel it.

 

No thank god.

 

On the press check I should clarify, I don't advocate doing this on every reload. It's a pre combat check before the pistol goes in the holster, or I step off with the rifle. Sure there is a distinct feel and sound when a round is chambered, but I will never rely on that alone for initial loading if serious business may be at hand. This is a training issue for me as well, that how I have been trained to do it, by individuals with relevant experience. The last class I attended had us done by drills in small groups more or less on our own program, no proctoring to load and make ready or any other regular administrative range commands. This was intentional to force personal accountability. Most shooters had at least one instance of a "click" when they needed "bang", self implementation of a regimented loading procedure including a press check solved this issue.

If I ever get to a point in my life where that gun is my "duty" gun....well then, Ive made some bad decisions.

I have 3 G19s could give a damn less.... The machine work done to the slide was never to improve a goddamn thing but aesthetics... As anyone with any intelligence would have thought... Its a firearm that I have modified for nothing other than my pleasure.... The fact that I have to explain that is quite frankly shocking... Wow..

simply mind boggling

 

At this point you're simply trolling, and it's stupid...

 

 

"Oh no! Boo the guy that spent money to customize something that he likes for reasons that he likes!"

fcuking ridiculous....

 

You're ridiculous, and hypocritical. I spent money on something I wanted to, to modify it the way I wanted to. It still functions the way its supposed to ... and your argument is invalid, and looks stupid... You dont like it.... I dont give a ****, you didnt build it.

 

By those very same standards... You being an enthusiast for a nich car is stupid, perhaps I like Mustangs, and therefore you are stupid....

 

Good lord.....

 

Boo hoo. I'm not impressed by your gat.

 

If you don't care, why respond? You were trolling for compliments like some sort of insecure high school girl sharing a photo expecting nice comments. Sorry pal, but I'm not here to hand out compliments to people doing unoriginal stuff for the sake of aesthetics. Particularly when no skill is involved. I wouldn't personally have a firearm engraved, but I can appreciate the artistry and skill that goes into high level engraving. These fad pistol slides with extra milling cuts made on CNC equipment? Lame ass no talent ass clown shit.

One of the dumbest reactions ever... You say that, yet as an automotive enthusiast you must keep all your vehicle stock right? All manufacturers make a perfect product for everybody right... Hypocritical much yes?

 

and No, it will run and run just like anything stock and of quality, nothing has been changed in any of its firing mechanisms other that to lighten trigger pull

 

If a vehicle is going to get modified by me, cosmetics are bottom priority.

 

The machine work done to that slide has no functional value at all. None. Frankly all you've accomplished is introducing windows in the slide to allow crud, lint, dirt, etc to enter the slide assembly. That's not going to enhance reliability. Reducing slide weight might give you a theoretical advantage in muzzle rise due to less reciprocal mass, but unless you're a top level competitive shooter you'll never tell the difference. The flip side of that is the slide has less mass moving forward to strip rounds out of the magazine and chamber the round, that reduced mass imparts less momentum to overcome fouling, debris (that you're allowing in the pistol now), and other non ideal operating conditions.

 

You've made game gun modifications to a duty gun, now it's compromised as a duty grade firearm, and still won't be a competitive game gun. Not sure what the point is? If pointing this out makes me an asshole, then guilty as charged.

Wow... I would not join a range that is asking for it's members to have an out of battery detonation.

 

That's nuts.

 

Going to have to disagree. Press checks are useful, and when properly executed will not result in an out of battery detonation. Just do the press check on the pistol, look and feel for a round being in the chamber and let the slide forward and then firmly bump the back of the slide with your hand to ensure you have a fully seated slide. Same for the rifle, use the forward assist to ensure the bolt is closed and carrier is seated all the way forward. Then do your magazine top offs, reinsert mags, and ensure they are seated.

What's the ******* point of that shit?

 

Seriously? It's not art work like engraving from a master engraver. Nor is any of that shit going to functionally enhance the pistol. Does the extra mill work make it more reliable? Nope, probably the opposite.

 

Glocktards are amusing to me.

Range gun, hasn't been in the case for a week at best.

 

Ammo was Federal brass range ammo "cause rental"

 

 

I fired that just before the VP9, I didn't like it much granted the 226 legion SAO is the Sig I really want. The fix I think was another trigger. The Yankee Marshal already swapped his out but I don't think he drop tested it.

 

 

 

Yeah FB and IG memes are great! A few folks showed Glocks failed the drop test but they all had aftermarket triggers. Kinda makes me want to just use a factory kit in my 80%. Glock 22 still M.I.A.

 

HK 9mm pistols are sprung for duty ammo, so plinking grade range fodder might give weak ejection at first. Mine didn't lighten up until about 300 rounds of NATO Spec ammo were down the pipe. Now it runs lighter loads better.

Cheap ammo (steel/aluminum)

Old ammo

Light Hand loads

Limp wrist

Poorly formed extractor

Bad recoil spring

 

My P320 X-Five dumps my hand loads (9mm 115grn FMJ, 4.1grn of tite-group) all over my right arm.

 

I've shot a VP9 and experienced no such issue with the above hand load.

 

How many rounds do you have through it?

 

******* SIG botched the P320 it seems. Not drop safe under some circumstances. Guess my wife's is going back as soon as they cook up a "fix".

My only complaint on it was the way the casings ejected. Besides that it ran flawless. Totally nothing wrong with 4 free mags either since I bet they aren't cheap to begin with.

 

http://www.cabelas.com/assets/pdfs/hk_summer_magazinepalooza_10-31-17.pdf

 

I have one and ejection is flawless, strong and positive to the 3:30 position. What was the issue with the one you shot?

Yep.

... and my local range is now open out to 800 yards, and an active long range shooting club is running league matches.

 

Well shit. Time to buy a new stick.

Played with a 6.5mm Creedmoor yesterday, guy I used to work with who retired had it. His son works for H-S Precision and built it for him. Let me shoot it. Silly accurate. Do want.

I never really fired anything Beretta besides beat to hell M9's, I always wondered what the other ones feel like especially the WC ones. I'm pretty sure that suppressor is fun as well, lol one day!

 

Got my 1911 back, they replaced the plunger tube and put on a different front sight after I told them the gun shoots rather low. Going to take it to shoot tomorrow and see how it is. Forgot how it feels to have night sights again.

 

A shop close to me has/had a Wilson Brig Tac with the full trigger job on it. That pistol was/is what an M9 should have been. Trigger was sublime.

He put the D mainspring in too? That makes a big difference by itself. Nice Brig by the way.

They're not that bad. Between the muzzle brake and the high weight a .500 S&W is a lot more tame than something like a .454 Casull or .475 Linebaugh in a revolver the size of a Ruger Bisley, or Freedom Arms M83. I've shot both, and the smaller revolvers are considerably more violent.

I was running it on an 18" barrel too, I can only imagine how shitty it would be on a pin and weld 14.5" or an SBR.

 

Also as a side note my Dreadnaught F2 on another rifle is far more effective and doesn't blow dry my face every time I fire the weapon.

 

Precision Armament makes some good stuff, but the M4-72 sucks. I have an AFAB on the rifle I pulled the M4-72 off of, much better balance of attributes and function.

I have one of those M4-72 brakes. Hate it. Too much back blast and side blast. I can feel the shit on my face when shooting. Took it off. Need to send it back to Brownells for a refund.

He's not interested in 1911's?

 

No. He's old and set in his ways, doesn't want to learn anything new. He dislikes semi-autos and a 1911 definitely wouldn't change his mind.