stickshift4life Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Hello, I am getting springs, swaybars, links, and the above kits installed in my 07 legacy. What i am trying to avoid is having to get two alignments. Should i do the springs first, wait for them to settle, then get the rest done/aligned or should i do it all at once and only align it after the install. Any advice/experience would be much appreciated. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustangendsley Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 it only takes the springs to settle what, 1 week. Do everything all at once. The anti lift kit wil not change the settings that much. So you can drive the car. Just mark in white were the setting is at now, and match it when putting back together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNVAR Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 ALK is not the same as bumpsteer/roll center kit. Those are two different things. ALK is just the front lower control arm-rear bushing. You won't affect alignment much (if at all) if you mark things. However, the RCK/BS kit will completely change alignment. You MUST get the car realigned after that is installed. I'd put everything in, and then drive around for a week and get it aligned. Let the shop know to please try to get everything as close to it was before hand, even though it'll be hard since you're replacing balljoints and tie rods with different length units. If your concern is tire wear, a week won't make or break you, unless you're driving a LOT. Get some fat friends to ride around your car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamal Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 no, the alk will have a pretty significant change on the alignment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNVAR Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Jamal, you think so? I'm under the impression that if nothing else is touched, the ALK shouldn't change much in the way of alignment, provided everything else is put back the way it was, unless you get the offset bushings which will throw your caster off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamal Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 I forgot that they make non-offset bushings. The added caster is a major benefit of replacing that part and I consider it a little silly to not get the offset version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNVAR Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Yeah, I got the offset, feels great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickshift4life Posted December 29, 2011 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 Great! So i just made an appointment to get it all done at once and an alignment a week later thanks for your help. Probably makes sense to do the rest of the control arm bushings at the same time right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNVAR Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 There are only 2 bushings in the front LCA. You might as well do the small one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickshift4life Posted December 29, 2011 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 Sounds good, thanks for all the feedback your advice is much appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNVAR Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 No prob. Get WL for them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickshift4life Posted December 29, 2011 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 Thats the plan, cheapest and best in my experience, mind its all pricey for a few pieces of plastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNVAR Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Get your stuff in yet? BTW, Jamal, apologies. There is no such thing as an ALK that is NOT offset, my mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZP Installs Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Actually, there is no caster adjustment on the subies. The lca bushings even the offset ones, only effect caster, so there is really no alignment needed if thats all one does. With the springs and roll center you will need an alignment, so do em all and then wait a week to get an alignment. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNVAR Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Yeah, there's no caster adjustment on the car itself, but the offset on the bushing still has to be rotated/positioned properly. I guess you could eyeball it when installing, but I found we were off a bit when I went to get it aligned afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZP Installs Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Yeah, there's no caster adjustment on the car itself, but the offset on the bushing still has to be rotated/positioned properly. I guess you could eyeball it when installing, but I found we were off a bit when I went to get it aligned afterwards. Gotcha. Yeah, an alignment always is a good idea, especially since we just got an alignment machine -mike http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/91072632.jpg http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/133406601.jpg http://upload.pbase.com/image/137566671.jpg Call directly for your best Whiteline Price! | We also carry almost every manufacturer now, so before you buy parts call us. AIM: AZP Installs | E-mail: paisan@azpinstalls.com | 725 Fairfield Ave | Kenilworth, NJ 07033 | 908.248.AZP1 (2971) | T-1 Certified Amsoil Direct Jobber "Race Tested, Enthusiast Approved!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamal Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Actually, there is no caster adjustment on the subies. The lca bushings even the offset ones, only effect caster, so there is really no alignment needed if thats all one does. With the springs and roll center you will need an alignment, so do em all and then wait a week to get an alignment. Mike they do change the anti-geometry (some by more than others), and by changing the caster you are changing the alignment of the upright to the steering rack, which results in noticeable toe out. When I install them I give the tie rods about a half turn in on each side before I even check the alignment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZP Installs Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Yeah I can see how that can change the tie rod ends to an extent, although we haven't really seen it effect it too drastically. Of course now we have a full alignment setup so we will be able to check them more precisely going forward. -Mike http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/91072632.jpg http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/133406601.jpg http://upload.pbase.com/image/137566671.jpg Call directly for your best Whiteline Price! | We also carry almost every manufacturer now, so before you buy parts call us. AIM: AZP Installs | E-mail: sales@azpinstalls.com | 725 Fairfield Ave | Kenilworth, NJ 07033 | 908.248.AZP1 (2971) | T-1 Certified Amsoil Direct Jobber "Race Tested, Enthusiast Approved!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickshift4life Posted January 4, 2012 Author Share Posted January 4, 2012 my mechanic appears to have no faith in his abilities so he will be doing the springs first then i will be returning to have the suspension bits installed and have an alignment. Oh well the process will now be longer than it needs to be but as long as it gets done properly i suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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