Magowin Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Do you guys think Raceway gas is any good? I got some this weekend and the car is actually running fine on it so I was planning on getting it more often since the station is by my house. I used to always get it on my 2000 Celica GTS and never had problems in that car so I figured it was decent gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V-Power Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 I wasn't suggesting your motor would fall apart using non-major fuel. In fact, that's the shift that we are seeing as people are unwilling to pay "extra" for the major brands. The effects aren't short term, but perhaps long term. You have to ask yourself is it worth it? How long do you intend to keep the car? Do you notice any knocks/pings after filling up with the WaWas of the world? Is it beneficial for you monetarily to pocket the 50-150cents per fill-up? And again, I work for a major ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emorphien Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 From what I recall in a thread on another forum, TopTier was established by some car manufacturers to say "hey look, this fuel is good and will obtain the mpg ratings we've given our cars, any other fuel and it's a wildcard." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Anyone running their GT on Regular vs. required Premium grade. that's a trick question I hope.. for the love of compression, who the heck would do that?! Keefe Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.reed Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Any one on the east coast know who supplies Wawa with their gas? (They calim its "American") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoundBoy Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 a buddy who works at wawa corperate HQ says that wawa sells gas cheaper becuase : 1) money is made more so off of the goods they sell then the gas, so less margin 2) They buy in such quality, that they can buy gas multiple times a month.. taking advantage of fluctuations in price ... another staion might buy once a month for a certian price... if it lowers.. they can't lower price until they rebuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjg Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 I have a cousin who is a PhD in Chemical Engineering and works in R&D for ExxonMobil. I shared the Top Tier concept and website with him for a reaction. We wasn't really convinced that there's anything to it. It's true that detergent levels in gas have gone down over the years, but this is partly because engine designs have gotten better and can handle the reduced levels. His best guess is that that the organization is funded to be an advocacy agent for additive suppliers. Gasoline is pretty much a commodity - retailers long ago gave up trying to claim that their gas was better than someone else's. This development has been a blow for the additive suppliers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmurph Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 I work in Oil and Gas ... won't reveal who I work for but I will make a shameless plug. The clue is in my on-line name. I suggest you do buy major brand fuels ... it's all about the additive. Yes, the Costcos and Wal-Marts do buy from the majors but that missing component is the branded additive that's injected into the tanker as the gas is loaded. Why would you pinch 3-7cents per gallon and put crap in your car?!? All to save ~70-90cents per fill up?!? Does it matter as much if you use Redline Fuel System Cleaner on a regular basis? I usually try to use a bottle in a few tanks before every oil change. I usually run Sunoco 94 in my M3 and a few other brands of 93 in the Subie...I have yet to have a problem with gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWD_Rules3830 Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 BP now use's amaco fuels ... im kinda doubted this, basically this is a rating on engine detergents ... I have always found that BP/Amaco always gives me the best engine reponse and Amaco has been rated like the best forever ... Conoco ... i hate that stuff ... most of the fuels on that list i would never use, except shell, i have have always been loyal to Amaco and intend to stay that way. I love my car ... basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieWan Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 I've been using Chevron gas for years. Does their additatives make any difference? I have no clue, but I feel more comfortable using their fuels. In the end that's what matters to me: do I trust the gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brady Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 I've been a loyal BP customer, but his makes me mad. BP SUCK IT, I'm going Shell. Shell and Chevron are tops, but BP is actually very good as well. The deal with Top Tier is that it isn't an INDUSTRY developed standard, it was actually developed arbitrarily by some auto manufacturers. To be classified as Top Tier, you need to pay money (and a lot of it). So for political reasons, BP has elected so far to not apply for Top Tier status despite that they would almost certainly qualify completely. This all coming from a Gasoline Retail Exec. who works for a company that would not qualify for Top Tier status (My step-dad). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brady Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 I looked through that, and it seems like there is a lack of information about who actually did the testing, how many samples of each brand, and the quantified results of all brands. It does say that 4 automakers came up with the standards, and what the standards are, but says nothing about the quantifiable results of the top tier brands, how other brands fared, or consistency of quality. (did they just get a good sample? how or where do they obtain their sample? corporate, distributor, or a random retail outlet...) What was the duration of the testing? It seems like there is some information left out that may hide bias, or fluke results. And right there, you hit the nail on the head! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWD_Rules3830 Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 http://www.crystalclearultimate.com/about.cfm?city=chi&lang=en This is amoco's website, there gases have less sulfur in them I love my car ... basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWD_Rules3830 Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 An STI driver that works for my mom recommended that i use amoco because i was getting some sulfur smell when i backed the car up ... i dont get them anymore now that i use amoco ... and from the same station ... everytime I love my car ... basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jweller Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 http://www.crystalclearultimate.com/about.cfm?city=chi&lang=en This is amoco's website, there gases have less sulfur in them This just in!! Amoco says "Amoco gasoline is good." I would consider verifying that info with a 3rd party source. Generally speaking the quality of fuels have gotten good enough that it's not really an issue. Add to that the fact that many states require tanks to be dug up and replaced in regular intervals and the chance of getting a bad tank is almost zero. I know Honda has started only installing an in-tank fuel filter as a "lifetime" part with no maintenence interval. at any rate, I don't know how they can possibly make a blanket statement that brand X fuels are top tier and brand Y are not. State emission control laws require special regional boutique blends. So the gas you buy at exxon in one state may not be the same gas as what you buy at an exxon 20 miles away accross state lines, or even in another metro area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWD_Rules3830 Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 SIGH ... why cant we just got back to the days where Amoco refined their own gas and you knew it was the best I love my car ... basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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