dbur Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Hi, I have a 1995 5 spd Legacy wagon with a bad tranny. Motor turns and clutch works but car won't go. It had some gear grinding sounds for a while whenever we let off on the gas before failing completely. I have a good 1992 tranny than seems to be almost identical, though I haven't yet been able to confirm that. Both cars had the same motor. 2.2L H4 SOHC 16V Tranny numbers: TY752VA2AA (92) TY752VAAAA (95) How can I confirm if this swap will work, or can be made to work? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jab83 Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 I believe so. I'm not a expert like some but pretty sure it works. But wait for someone with more experience then me tells you its ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnegg Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 you need to confirm that they have the same final drive / diff ratio. that it the stumbling block. the same clutch type , push vs. pull and / or hydro vs. cable also MAY be factors, but probably not. the 95 5 speed has a 3.9 final drive ratio. look here for the 93 ratio: http://bbs.legacycentral.org/viewtopic.php?t=32148 (don't forget to bookmark it.) or do a search for ''trannychart'' and see what you get. if nothing, try google, or ultimatesubaru.org . good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbur Posted June 17, 2011 Author Share Posted June 17, 2011 I see that ref you gave says: 1992-1994 AWD non-turbo MT Legacy 4.111 Final Drive Ratio This matches what I have found for the 95. There seems to be a tranny chart that goes back as far as 94. It says: Model Range Trans. Code 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th Rev. T.R. F.D. Center Diff. Type Front Diff. 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Legacy Outback MY94 TY752VAAAA 3.545 2.111 1.448 1.088 0.780 N/A 3.416 1.000 4.111 Viscous (4kgf) Open In any case if they don't match I could always just swap out the rear diff for the one that is now matched with the 92 tranny I want to use, couldn't I? Thanks. 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johnegg Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 the 95 has a 3.9 final drive ratio. but an outback 5 speed 96 - 98 will have 4.11 ratio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbur Posted June 17, 2011 Author Share Posted June 17, 2011 I see 3.9 ratio listed for a 95, but the tranny part number says it is matched with a 4.11. ??? TY752VAAAA 3.545 2.111 1.448 1.088 0.780 N/A 3.416 1.000 4.111 Maybe a case of mid year part number transitions? I suppose I could jack up a wheel and check the ratio directly (wheel vs drive shaft revolutions). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbur Posted June 18, 2011 Author Share Posted June 18, 2011 So how is it they are using the TY752VAAAA transmission on cars that have both 3.9 and 4.11 drive ratios? Am I misunderstanding something about how this works? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnegg Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 one issue mat be model year vs. build date. june of 95 is a cut off date, change date, for the auto trans, i don't know about the 5 speed. i wouldn't put too much faith in the chart. you can look for part numbers on this site: http://opposedforces.com/parts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbur Posted June 19, 2011 Author Share Posted June 19, 2011 I measured the ratios in each by jacking the cart up and rotating the rear wheel while counting revolutions on the drive shaft. For the 95 I got 3.95 and for the 92 I got 4.11. Pretty close to what you said. In any case they are definitely different. I'm not understanding why the TY752VAAAA can be listed with a 4.11 rear diff for the 1994 model year. In any case I assume this swap can work if I also swap the rear diff with it. Is that right? Would the speedo gear or anything else have to change as well? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnegg Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 the speedo will be off, but i don't think changing the speedo gear is a realistic option.// you have to split the case, i think. you can step up to a GT size tire, 205/55/16, with a 24.9 inch diameter with out any head ache. ( lego L = 24.2", GT = 24.9", outback = 26.2" ) going larger will require outback struts. larger tires will offset the speedo error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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