darkside Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Hey guys quick question. Were do these go White line control arm bushing go? http://www.fredbeansparts.com/servlet/the-2202/Whiteline-Subaru-Legacy-GT/Detail I got nice tax return and buying some things to tighten the front end. I already have AVO LCA bushings sitting at home and AVO rear sways and BC suspension installed. So far my order to clean up house is-- the AVO steering rack bushing , AVO front underbrace, whiteline rear diffential bushings and whiteline roll center kit and AVO tranny mount bushing. . I am getting engine mounts next month. Anybody running group n engine mounts , Would you go just pitch mount and group n rear engine mount or will running the side engine mounts be to harsh.. Looking for some feed back. Let me know if i forgot anything. Only trying to pay all at once for install. Whiteline Subaru Legacy GT Control Arm Bushing Kit Legacy GT 05-09:Suspension Parts:Bushings / Mounts http://www.fredbeansparts.com/catalog/wl0505.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTTuner Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Those are the front bushings for the front LCA, where it bolts to the crossmember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkside Posted February 22, 2010 Author Share Posted February 22, 2010 So are these needed, I have avo lca bushings. Any body got pics installed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTTuner Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 "Need" is relative to how far you want to go. If your doing rack bushings and the brace it can't hurt. IMO, the rack bushings make little or no difference, are you doing a frt sway bar too? A frt sway would be more noticible than rack and the bushings you asked about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagcars26 Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 A frt sway would be more noticible than rack and the bushings you asked about. This /\..IMO Get a front sway bar then the under brace then the bushings.In that order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkside Posted February 22, 2010 Author Share Posted February 22, 2010 Cool thanks, I have been holding back on front sways, I have been told front sways pretty good already, that why I didn't add to the mix. Thanks 4 feedback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteyjr Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 For awhile I went only rear bar , finally upgraded to an adjustable front bar and pretty happy with the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Sways first. Then bushings or braces. On the street the braces make very little difference. The bushings make a small difference too. The roll center kit is nice for lowered cars. The bump steer kit is ok. The steering rack is more fight than it is worth. The diff bushings make a slight difference (I notice the clunk in reverse engagement is gone). The tranny bushings just add NVH unless you have a sts too. Then they add positive feel and NVH. I have basically the entire Whiteline catalog installed, with RCE Tarmacs, STi strut tower brace, SPT front lower brace, Cobb sways (fr/rr), Perrin links (fr/rr), AVO rear lower brace. All tranny bushings and mount changed with Cobb sts, AP solid pitch stop. If you have questions about the changes they add and the NVH associated shoot me a PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZP Installs Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Best upgrade after sway bars would be the LCA Bushings (which you have) and Steering Rack Bushings. The biggest improvement (if you LCA Bushings are ok) is the SRBs IMO. -mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteyjr Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Mike, how does the SRB affect NVH and what effect did it have? I agree the LCA bushings are a great improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZP Installs Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 I didn't notice anything significantly increased in NVH. It did however give the car a significantly tighter steering feel, more European than Japanese. -mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 I didn't notice the drastic change in steering that Mike did. I did the rack later in the build and felt the steering was already crisper, more precise and more like a BMW then a Subaru. Mike drives a wagon too and maybe that plays a minor role. He does have lots of experience with the Whiteline products though. -Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZP Installs Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Well I was speaking more in general than my car specifically. We've installed quite a few srb and seen it as the single biggest improvement especially for the $ Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Like I said, Mike has lots of experience with Whiteline. More than I. I only get to play with two cars (in general). He sees lots more than that with the business. I trust his experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkside Posted February 24, 2010 Author Share Posted February 24, 2010 thanks guys for the feed back keep it coming.. any body run rear group n mounts and pitch stop .. Im afraid the side engine mounts might be overkill.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZP Installs Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 By rear do you mean the transmission mount? I have Group N Motor and Trans Mounts, and when I had konis and pinks I had Group N front Strut Tops. The Group N mounts tighten things up nicely as well. -mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 I use an AP pitch stop. Not recommended unless you want to hear your valves tap. I would go with the Kartboy instead. I use the GroupN tranny mount. Seem to be the same rubber as the stock mount, but lots more of it. Solid instead of hollow. My motor mounts are still stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteyjr Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Thanks guys, good info as I'm planning to go all out on suspension this year (not that it doesn't handle well already). I came from BMW (track ready M5) and still looking for that ultimate connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwhillVT Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 AZP, where can I get the Group N mounts, I just bought Konis to replace my coilovers and dont really want to use my oem top hats that have been in the garage for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZP Installs Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 I bought mine from Rallispec in Hainesport, NJ -mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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