AndrewBigA Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 2007 Range Rover Sport HSE Paint Restoration 3M Perfect-It Rubbing Compound orange pad Flex rotary 3M Perfect-It Ultrafine Machine Polish blue pad Flex rotary 1Z Einszett Glanz Wax - bottom coat to seal Adams Americana Paste Wax - top coat for extra protection Rejex on all glass, wheels, head & tail lights most detailers call this paint "paint correction" but i call it "paint restoration" FYI, i am the only one in my shop that picks up a wheel for any machine polishing or paint restoration job! bef hood aft wash & clay bar 1 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/1-7.jpg 2 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/2-6.jpg 3 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/3-6.jpg aft hood aft wash & clay bar, compound, polish no sealant or wax applied yet 4 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/4-3.jpg 5 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/5-2.jpg 6 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/6-2.jpg baked on brake dust on every little corner of each wheel Ardex Hard At It Super Duty Compound, a toothbrush & alot of patience took care of that 7 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/1-9.jpg 8 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/2-8.jpg 9 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/3-8.jpg 10 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/4-5.jpg well finish each wheel off with a coat of Rejex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewBigA Posted December 20, 2009 Author Share Posted December 20, 2009 bef driv door after wash & claybar 11 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/drdoorbef1.jpg 12 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/drdoorbef2.jpg 13 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/drdoorbef3.jpg aft driv door aft wash & clay bar, compound, polish no sealant or wax applied yet 14 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/aftdriverdoor1.jpg 15 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/aftdriverdoor2.jpg 16 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/aftdriverdoor3.jpg bef pas door, driv side aft wash & clay bar 17 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/1-10.jpg 18 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/2-9.jpg 19 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/3-9.jpg aft pas door, driv side aft wash & clay bar, compound, polish 20 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/1-11.jpg 21 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/2-11.jpg 22 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/3-11.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewBigA Posted December 20, 2009 Author Share Posted December 20, 2009 bef front of the roof aft wash & clay bar 23 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/1-12.jpg 24 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/3-10.jpg aft front of the roof aft wash & clay bar, compound, polish no sealant or wax applied yet 25 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/2-10.jpg 26 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/4-6.jpg pas side by the sunroof after wash clay bar, compound, polish no sealant or wax applied yet i thought this was a cool reflection shot of the 3M bottles =) 27 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/5-4.jpg pics taken after final inspection with a fresh microfiber towel, some spray wax for finger prints & to make sure theres no wax streaks on each panel we also use an assortment of different paint & toothbrushes with a few toothpicks & cotton qtips we make sure theres no product residue left in any crevice such as moldings & around the letters of the badges & door handles i didnt have time to take any full truck pics the shop was busy & the customer needed to leave right away & head to his pizzeria in the city hood with fluoroscent & 1000 watt halogen lighting 28 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/6-4.jpg pure peanut oil applied with a small sponge to dress the black plastic all around the bottom of the truck 29 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/7-1.jpg hood 30 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/8-1.jpg hood close 31 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/9-1.jpg hood really close 32 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/10-1.jpg front pas door 33 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/11.jpg front pas door close 34 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/12.jpg rear pas door 35 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/13.jpg rear pas door close 36 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/14.jpg driv side rear quarter panel 37 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/15.jpg driv side piece of rear bumper right below quarter panel 38 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/16.jpg 3 halogens on the hood one of the 500 watt bulbs burnt out before i took this pic 39 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/18.jpg up close 40 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/19.jpg all the products used lined up on a fresh microfiber towel. i guess im getting good with the camera skills. the containers are not on top of the hood! there is a microfiber towel underneath them! 41 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/20.jpg one of my fav pics! drivers door! 42 http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab222/footballhead_2009/17.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillboy Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 I'd hire you. Nice job. It is still ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenNorthLGT Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pawlwawl06 Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 WTF. . .I wanna know how was this guy hand-washing his car?? Looks like he rolled his mitt in gravel before the wash... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apexi Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Never heard of the peanut oil trick.. good stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewBigA Posted December 21, 2009 Author Share Posted December 21, 2009 thanks guys. i have a shop in queens ny. we sponsor over a dozen car forums. ive been flirting with legacygt for a while now. for some reason i keep procrastinating to become a vendor. hmmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theflystyle Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 that attention to detail i feel would win some potential customers in your area. great looking job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewBigA Posted December 21, 2009 Author Share Posted December 21, 2009 that attention to detail i feel would win some potential customers in your area. great looking job thanks man. yes, im very known in the tri state area for doing great work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPjeep2002 Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Nice job. Gotta do the same thing wit my OBP in the spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red98lude Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Looks great. Any tips for removing acid rain etching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewBigA Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share Posted December 22, 2009 Looks great. Any tips for removing acid rain etching? acid rain etching on the glass or on the paint or on both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubyShop.com Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 any pics of the pads and the buffer you used? Would I get similar results if I use the same compounds and an orbital? -Franz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewBigA Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share Posted December 22, 2009 any pics of the pads and the buffer you used? Would I get similar results if I use the same compounds and an orbital? -Franz i used my flex mini rotary. no you will not get the same results with the less agressive orbital types of machines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red98lude Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 acid rain etching on the glass or on the paint or on both? On the paint. You can't see them during the day but at night under a parking lot lamp they look terrible. I used my porter cable buffer for the first time on the car with Menzerna FP and IP using a orange pad on the bad areas and it didn't seem to help. I am still new with the buffer so I might have to try again in the spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewBigA Posted December 23, 2009 Author Share Posted December 23, 2009 I used my porter cable buffer thats the problem, the PC isnt strong enough to remove the acid water mark stains that well. you can use it for that but it will take forever to get those acid water mark stains removed 100%. a rotary machine is the best for removing acid water mark stains but should only be used by someone with a good amount of experience. hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red98lude Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 thats the problem, the PC isnt strong enough to remove the acid water mark stains that well. you can use it for that but it will take forever to get those acid water mark stains removed 100%. a rotary machine is the best for removing acid water mark stains but should only be used by someone with a good amount of experience. hope this helps. That does help, thanks. So it would probably be better to have a pro use a rotary on the bad spots instead of buying a more agressive pad/compound? Also, if I just have them remove the spots would I be able to use my pc to finish any marring or whatever is left from removing the spots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewBigA Posted December 23, 2009 Author Share Posted December 23, 2009 That does help, thanks. So it would probably be better to have a pro use a rotary on the bad spots instead of buying a more agressive pad/compound? Also, if I just have them remove the spots would I be able to use my pc to finish any marring or whatever is left from removing the spots? just find a good local detailer that has a good amount of experience & pay him to do the complete job. your going to spend more money trying to do half the job & then hiring someone else to finish the job. supplies start to ad up. have someone take care of the car now & then just maintain it yourself afterwords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brady Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 I have to disagree that the same results can't be had with a PC. The PC does the same thing a rotary does, but admittedly not as fast. The PC's job is to move a polishing product in a manner that abrades the paint and removes small scratches and imperfections. People have burned through Paint with a PC, so one can't say that a PC can't cut through just as much damage as a rotary. As for cutting through acid rain etching, I also wouldn't necessarily recommend going with a more aggressive pad or product if you've already seen improvement. It might just take another pass with the same pad/product or possibly even a LESS aggressive pad/product combination to take out the remaining marring in the paint. Also, if the paint is STAINED (i.e. the paint has been penetrated and discolored from within, after all, paint IS porous) then no amount of polishing with a PC or a Rotary will fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewBigA Posted December 23, 2009 Author Share Posted December 23, 2009 I have to disagree that the same results can't be had with a PC. The PC does the same thing a rotary does, but admittedly not as fast. The PC's job is to move a polishing product in a manner that abrades the paint and removes small scratches and imperfections. People have burned through Paint with a PC, so one can't say that a PC can't cut through just as much damage as a rotary. As for cutting through acid rain etching, I also wouldn't necessarily recommend going with a more aggressive pad or product if you've already seen improvement. It might just take another pass with the same pad/product or possibly even a LESS aggressive pad/product combination to take out the remaining marring in the paint. Also, if the paint is STAINED (i.e. the paint has been penetrated and discolored from within, after all, paint IS porous) then no amount of polishing with a PC or a Rotary will fix it. you do realize ive been doing this for may years, 12+ almost 13 years to be exact? the PC might be able to do the job but it will take twice as long & i guarantee the paint not come out as crisp & clear as when done with a rotary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brady Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 I realize a lot of people who use a rotary think it's the only way to go. I did acknowledge that it will take longer, but a detailer with a PC and the right products can do every bit as good a job as a detailer with a Rotary. The question is if the results can be had with a PC vs. a Rotary. Saying they can't be had with a PC is just plain wrong. And a detailer who is patient with a PC and willing to use the right pad/product combinations will get results just as crisp as with a rotary. It's all about knowing what you're working with. Now, will someone using a PC for the first time get the same results? Probably not, but why not try it and learn along the way? He asked good questions. I wouldn't say the only way to get the job fixed is to take it to a pro. What about if the paint is stained and not just etched? What if it's only noticeable under parking lights (sodium-vapor usually) because the color spectrum makes those color differences more apparent (just as different body panels often appear colored differently under those lights because the Urethane body parts react slightly differently than the steel/aluminum body parts despite the fact that the coloring looks the same under direct sunlight)? How will a rotary help this situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brady Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 red98lude - When you say that you can't see them in the daytime, if the paint surface is clean, can you see the damage at all in the reflection of the paint? Is the surface marred/damaged, or is it a discoloration that is only visible under artificial lights? I think that's a key question to figure out what the problem is in this case. Possible to show the problem in photos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Tank Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 You do beautiful work. It's sad when people don't take care of their paint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotokan1509 Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Heres the big question, what does something like that run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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