e85 in Sacramento

[Wang Lung]

Getting really easy to find. At $1.99 per gallon, I'm considering a conversion.

 

 

• Citrus Heights - NOW OPEN 7741 Auburn Blvd
  Citrus Heights, California 95610
  
• Elk Grove - NOW OPEN
  check price 9190 E Stockton Blvd
  Elk Grove, California 95624
  
• Sacramento, Florin Road - NOW OPEN
  check price 8062 Florin Road
  Sacramento, California 95828
  
• Sacramento, Folsom Blvd. - NOW OPEN
  check price 8090 Folsom Blvd.
  Sacramento, California 95826
  
• Placerville 151 Main St
  Placerville, California 95667
  
• Rocklin - NOW OPEN
  check price 6700 Five Star Blvd
  Rocklin, California 95677
  
• Roseville 999 Sunrise Ave
  Roseville, California 95661
  

[wpmarky]

does anyone know if there are california tax breaks for converting to e85?

 

This is all I found, but I can't find anything specific incentives for converting like it sounds like the oregon peeps get:

 

http://www.afdc.energy.gov/afdc/progs/ind_state_laws.php/CA/ETH

[Wang Lung]

Here's the deal. You and I bought every FFV driven by every State employee who has one. I saw a number like 35,000 vehicles at one time.

 

Since there is nowhere to buy e85 for all these FFV's, you and I subsidize the cost of ethanol to the tune of a market price of $1.99. Surely, you didn't think that was the real price did you? And thirdly, since noone really wants to buy ethanol anyway, CARB gave $3,750,000 of your money to 29 gas stations in Northern California to install an e85 pump station.

 

And you want more incentive? Pay for it yourself.

[Scotty]

You don't save any money using E85. You will lose about 25% of your fuel economy, which really doesn't offset the cheaper gas.

[wpmarky]

Here's the deal. You and I bought every FFV driven by every State employee who has one. I saw a number like 35,000 vehicles at one time.

 

Since there is nowhere to buy e85 for all these FFV's, you and I subsidize the cost of ethanol to the tune of a market price of $1.99. Surely, you didn't think that was the real price did you? And thirdly, since noone really wants to buy ethanol anyway, CARB gave $3,750,000 of your money to 29 gas stations in Northern California to install an e85 pump station.

 

And you want more incentive? Pay for it yourself.

 

 

So, by all that you mean no? Ok thanks.

[Wang Lung]

You're welcome.

[praedet]

You don't save any money using E85. You will lose about 25% of your fuel economy, which really doesn't offset the cheaper gas.

Depends...

 

Here in Colorado the premium is 30% plus more than E-85. And, the mpg diffeence is more like 20%. So, you loose miles, but it costs less overall, is better for your engine, and you get the same performance as you would on 115 or so octane

[GoSix]

Feh, I'm going to wait for the Scooby diesels to some to the States

[Wang Lung]

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[biz77]

You don't save any money using E85. You will lose about 25% of your fuel economy, which really doesn't offset the cheaper gas.

 

I personally lose about 20% in mileage (less in all freeway driving), but with a price spread of about 23% locally versus premium I end up saving ~ 2 cents per mile running E85 in the summer. I take this 2 cents per mile as a bonus however, since ethanol is higly oxygenated and 105 octane equivalent, the extra 35 ft. lbs. of torque I get out of it is far more enjoyable than any cost savings.