EJ20H-TT Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 Turbo cars love high octane fuel and they can drink lots of it. So what's the highest Octane you can get in your area ? And at what price. I can get 98 Octane (ron) @ $NZ 1.15 per litre. $US 2.23 per gallon if i got my math right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMT4SWA Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 In Austin Texas I pay about $1.55 to $1.65 a gallon for 93 octane (Super Unleaded...Texaco/Exxon/Shell) depending on what part of town I am at. BTW, cars love "Jet A"...I get that from the airport at about $2.50 a gallon! :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBY Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 91 Octane is the best commonly available gas/petrol here in California. Paid $1.80 on the weekend at Costco (cheap) but it's around $2.00 at a lot of places and on the way up again. 100 octane can be had in San Jose but it's ~$4.00 a gallon. BTW, Fuel is graded here RON+MON/2 so 98 Octane RON would be approx 94 Octane at the pump here in the US. AMT4SWA, what is "Jet A"? I thought jet engines ran on Kero? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMT4SWA Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 Gumby...I was just having some fun with you all...yes, "Jet A" is basically Kerosine...used by all the commercial airlines/aviation for any turbine powered aircraft. This fuel would destroy a car engine so do not try this at home! :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPower Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 Here in Panama, 95 is $1.92/gallon. I'm guessing that this is RON because I highly doubt it to be octane as "we" calculate it. So that should be 93 Yankee Octane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtguy Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 93 octane in the Chicago area, for about $1.80 per gallon these days. Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBY Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 Looks like the rest of the country is catching up with California prices. Does anyone know why California only has 91 octane and almost every other state has at least 93? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tide Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 [quote name='Gumby']Looks like the rest of the country is catching up with California prices. Does anyone know why California only has 91 octane and almost every other state has at least 93?[/quote] Ah, those wonderful emissions laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team23jordan Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 WA highest i've seen is 93 :roll: Perrin BIG maf intake Perrin Turbo Inlet HKS SSQV BOV Megan Racing header with UP (ceramic coated) HKS DP (WRX) DMH E-cutout Custom 3" catback UTEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBE555 Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 93, few spots 94 but few and far between. 100 octane race fuel can be had but I can't remember where. I know when in Vegas we stopped at a gas station and 100 octane was available for a whopping $3.85 a gal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_rex Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 i run 94 in my WRX exclusively. it's about $1.75/gal now. being a turbo, i'm sure they'll state "premium unleaded fuel only" in the maual and on the gas cap. (as they should) dR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akm3 Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Highest I've found in WA is 92, is there a place in Spokane anyone knows of that sells 93? (If you live in Seattle, Spokane is that place on the east half of the state that gets taxed to fix up your city and doesn't get much rain) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMT4SWA Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Yes, the new Legacy is a premium unleaded vehicle only (minimum required octane rating will be 91 in the owners manual...this is for the U.S. spec car). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtmy04 Posted January 15, 2004 Share Posted January 15, 2004 Australian spec. model states in the manual that minimum RON (I think US uses Pump Octane Rating, which is an average of MON & RON ??? - correct me if I'm wrong) 96, but recommends 98RON. The sticker on the fuel filler flap says to use 98RON only. I actually quizzed Subaru on this before I bought the card because my company supplies me with a Caltex fuel card - Caltex only supply 96RON in Australia at this stage. Shell & BP are the only suppliers of 98RON. Their reply was that the car would run satisfactorily on 96, but they wouldn't guarantee the performance or fuel economy specs. Anyway, the first few tanks I used 98RON Shell Optimax whilst I waited for my new Caltex fuelcard. With trepidation, I then switched to the Caltex Vortex Gold 96RON. I honestly have not been able to detect any difference in performance, driveability or fuel economy. I record my fuel consumption and was getting 9.8 l/100km on 98, and now average 9.6 l/100km on 96. It would be interesting to run with both fuels on a dyno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tide Posted January 15, 2004 Share Posted January 15, 2004 [quote name='gtmy04']Australian spec. model states in the manual that minimum RON (I think US uses Pump Octane Rating, which is an average of MON & RON ??? - correct me if I'm wrong) 96, but recommends 98RON. The sticker on the fuel filler flap says to use 98RON only. I actually quizzed Subaru on this before I bought the card because my company supplies me with a Caltex fuel card - Caltex only supply 96RON in Australia at this stage. Shell & BP are the only suppliers of 98RON. Their reply was that the car would run satisfactorily on 96, but they wouldn't guarantee the performance or fuel economy specs. Anyway, the first few tanks I used 98RON Shell Optimax whilst I waited for my new Caltex fuelcard. With trepidation, I then switched to the Caltex Vortex Gold 96RON. I honestly have not been able to detect any difference in performance, driveability or fuel economy. I record my fuel consumption and was getting 9.8 l/100km on 98, and now average 9.6 l/100km on 96. It would be interesting to run with both fuels on a dyno.[/quote] The first thing you would notice would be pinging. Whats nice about most newer Suby's is they will learn over time what timing to use based on fuel in it. You'd be safer to always put the same thing in (96) than switch back and forth. I dont know, though, how safe this is for the engine in the long haul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPower Posted January 15, 2004 Share Posted January 15, 2004 Paul Hansen has written several times of how Subaru's ECU (non-USDM STi?) is very good about learning and retarding the timing if there starts to be some pinging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tide Posted January 15, 2004 Share Posted January 15, 2004 [quote name='PPower']Paul Hansen has written several times of how Subaru's ECU (non-USDM STi?) is very good about learning and retarding the timing if there starts to be some pinging.[/quote]Yeah we need to get him over here! I sent him a personal email but he hasn't shown up or replied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtmy04 Posted January 15, 2004 Share Posted January 15, 2004 In my case, I don't believe there's any detonation because (and i know it's subjective) there is no discernible loss in performance running on 96 compared to 98RON. The manual says "when 98RON is not available, the engine may be run on 95 octane fuel. This may result in loss of performance and driveability." It seems to me that there is no noticeable difference and the spec (as is Subaru's wont) is a little conservative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ20H-TT Posted January 15, 2004 Author Share Posted January 15, 2004 All Subbies have knock sensors that if they detect "pinging" the ecu retards the timming. So your pretty safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacy92ej22t Posted January 15, 2004 Share Posted January 15, 2004 I only run Ultra 94 in my 92 Legacy SS which runs $1.69. I can get GT 104 race fuel for about $4.30 a gallon and GT 108 race fuel for about $4.50 a gallon from March to October at the local 1/4 mile. IIRC if you aren't running cats (leaded) you can get up to 116 there for about $4.85 a gallon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ20H-TT Posted January 15, 2004 Author Share Posted January 15, 2004 [quote name='Tide'][quote name='PPower']Paul Hansen has written several times of how Subaru's ECU (non-USDM STi?) is very good about learning and retarding the timing if there starts to be some pinging.[/quote]Yeah we need to get him over here! I sent him a personal email but he hasn't shown up or replied.[/quote] Well i see we have a new member ApexJapan ~ Paul Hansen perhaps ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tide Posted January 15, 2004 Share Posted January 15, 2004 Yeah, It's him. No posts yet, but he's lurking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSB Posted January 15, 2004 Share Posted January 15, 2004 Fuel in Japan currently costs about 115yen per litre of 100 Ron "super" which is the recommended fuel for my Legacy GT Spec B. Does anyone know where on the web there is info re using lower grade fuel, as I'll probably take the car to the UK or Oz when we leave Japan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPower Posted January 15, 2004 Share Posted January 15, 2004 So that's about $4.11/gallon at 106yen/dollar & 3.79 liters/gallon. A black Spec B wagon? :envious: Can we get some pics? MT or AT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Zevil Posted January 15, 2004 Share Posted January 15, 2004 [quote name='EJ20H-TT'][quote name='Tide'][quote name='PPower']Paul Hansen has written several times of how Subaru's ECU (non-USDM STi?) is very good about learning and retarding the timing if there starts to be some pinging.[/quote]Yeah we need to get him over here! I sent him a personal email but he hasn't shown up or replied.[/quote] Well i see we have a new member ApexJapan ~ Paul Hansen perhaps ?[/quote] Yeah, I PM'd him on the NASIOC board to see if he would like to enlighten us instead of defending the car from the haters on NASIOC :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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