CRAZY KEN Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 I just had an ACT clutch & flywheel installed on Saturday. When I went to pickup the car after hours, the clutch pedals goes all the way down easier than my stock and STAYS DOWN. I have to tuck my toes underneath to pop it back up. I can shift into 1st ... no problem, but always stall because i have to pop it up...it wont allow me to ease the clutch. What could it be? Help!!! CRAZY KEN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY KEN Posted July 22, 2008 Author Share Posted July 22, 2008 ...no one can help me! ;( It's almost a week and I'm Legacyless!!! Help, CRAZY KEN...getting Crazier by the minute...to top things off the shop is on vacation for a week...boohooohooo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJMC Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Could be... A leak in the hydraulic system. Hydraulic system needs to be bled. Anyone else have some ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBLU24 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 +1 on starting with bleeding the clutch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHole Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Is there a return spring that might have come loose? Kyle "BlackHole" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansGT Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Damn, sorry. Could be the slave cylinder leak or something. Guy I know had that happen to his M3. What does the installer have to say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY KEN Posted July 22, 2008 Author Share Posted July 22, 2008 ...installer/business is on vacation for a week! I will have them check return spring, bleed system and check for leaks when they get back...as of now...I have been pimping in the wifes company car for a week (toyota corolla- love the gas mileage- hate the performance! ) while wifey enjoys benz! :l CRAZY KEN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ed Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 it needs a return spring... i'll try and find the post about it he also answered your question in another thread http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91377 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qikslvr Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Did you see my post in my other thread about this: http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78095 Most likely need to bleed it or adjust the clutch spring if you have one installed. If you don't you probably need one. Let's kick this pig! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY KEN Posted July 22, 2008 Author Share Posted July 22, 2008 ...for your guidance...I will attack this again this weekend! wish me luck, CRAZY KEN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fweasel Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 it needs a return spring... i'll try and find the post about it he also answered your question in another thread http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91377 No, that spring was to alleviate throw out bearing noise and has nothing to do with the issue described here by the OP. ignore him, he'll go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qikslvr Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 No, that spring was to alleviate throw out bearing noise and has nothing to do with the issue described here by the OP. If he has the return spring installed and it is too tight(backing fluid up into the master cyl); it will cause the pedal to drop to the floor when pressed. I think the extra spring pressure moves the MC piston back just enough to release the pressure in the clutch line. It's as if the pedal sucks it's self to the floor after about an inch or two of travel. If this is the case; he just needs to bend the bracket towards the clutch fork just a little to relieve some spring tension. You want just enough pull to quiet the TOB, more is not better. Mine still makes the noise when I lightly rest my foot on the pedal, but it's been working for almost a year now. Let's kick this pig! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ed Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 If he has the return spring installed and it is too tight(backing fluid up into the master cyl); it will cause the pedal to drop to the floor when pressed. I think the extra spring pressure moves the MC piston back just enough to release the pressure in the clutch line. It's as if the pedal sucks it's self to the floor after about an inch or two of travel. If this is the case; he just needs to bend the bracket towards the clutch fork just a little to relieve some spring tension. You want just enough pull to quiet the TOB, more is not better. Mine still makes the noise when I lightly rest my foot on the pedal, but it's been working for almost a year now. it has to do with the spring etc...just as he has replied here... mine did the same thing and qik slvr helped me out...i pointed op in the right direction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fweasel Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 it has to do with the spring etc...just as he has replied here... mine did the same thing and qik slvr helped me out...i pointed op in the right direction Okay, I'll defer to you, but the one instance I saw in person, the spring was there only to put slight pressure to prevent the TOB noise and there was never any hint of the clutch pedal falling flat at the floor. ignore him, he'll go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY KEN Posted July 23, 2008 Author Share Posted July 23, 2008 ...this is great support!!! SO...what you guys are saying is if I do the TOB noise/vibration fix...it will also eliminate my clutch pedal from staying stuck on the floor! RIGHT??? thanks again, CRAZY KEN...not so Crazy now! Can't wait to tackle this again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY KEN Posted July 23, 2008 Author Share Posted July 23, 2008 ...when you guys were mentioning the return spring...is it the same thing as the TOB spring? If not, where is the return spring located? Thanks for the clarification, CRAZY KEN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ed Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 The return spring is added...it isn't already there... my car did the same exact thing that yours is doing, we added the spring and the issue went away. I am doing a second clutch on my car this week, we will see how it goes this time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY KEN Posted July 28, 2008 Author Share Posted July 28, 2008 ...Got a pic of this mysterious return spring (how long what is the tension rating-lbs.???) and exactly where does it go? THANKS! And why do you need a 2nd ACT Clutch...did you burn through it already....sounds very disconcerting! CRAZY KEN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qikslvr Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Check this thread. It's my SPEC review, but it has the "clutch fork return spring" install with pics. I give all the specs in post #10 and there are a couple pictures showing what is under the intercooler, where you need to bolt the bracket and where to hook the spring. http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78095 Let's kick this pig! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilT Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 Maybe your release fork looks like this: http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/PhilTGT/DSC00585.jpg Seems the more I search, the more threads I find with a similar problem. Double Award Winning Legacy GT Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qikslvr Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Is that the pivot point that broke though there? That may have caused a slight problem. Let's kick this pig! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilT Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Is that the pivot point that broke though there? That may have caused a slight problem. Yes, it did Pedal went straight to the floor and stayed there. Double Award Winning Legacy GT Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caramall2 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 What was the final result Crazy Ken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY KEN Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 ...towed my car to the guy who put it in...He bled the system again...worked the clutch a few times...made some minor adjustments to the clutch cable...never did spring tension mod...and it has been working flawlessly for almost 3 months! CK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caramall2 Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Schweet! Nice to hear a happy ending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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