warnoldscu Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 I just met a guy who has a 2004 M3 with SMG... is the SMG faster than a good driver on a standard manual tranny? I was of the impression that the SMG did shift faster, but I heard someone saying that a standard manual had the potential to beat it.... just curious - (oh, and you think I will be able to take him after stage 1 with stock everything else?) Thanks guys. Weston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deer Killer Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 As long as he knows how to use launch control.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05LegacyGT330Ci Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 Standard manual has always been tested quicker, LC does not give optimal RPM here in the States where it is tuned less aggressively then in other markets. And second question no, perhaps Stage 2 from a dig but I doubt from a roll. Song of Post- Led Zeppelin- In My Time Of Dying ( Plant stopped singing Live after his car accidnet as he believed he was tempting fate by singing it ) '05 Black Legacy GT Wagon 5-spd '02 Topaz/Black 330Ci 5-spd Drift Ryder's School of Rally Arts, coming to an Australia near you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twisted Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 if smg is anything like the CVT then i would think that the 5spd would be better. my experience is with the cvt and it seems to have a delay between the physical nudge of the lever and the time it engages. Maybe SMG is not the same as cvt and if thats the case i apologize for making a complete @$$ of myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axis008 Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 I thought that the most aggressive setting on the SMG can shift faster than humanly possible. Of course it's abusive on the drivetrain, but at least you get from A to B quicker. -ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smada Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 An 04 M3 has acceleration comparable to the STi, I think 0-60 in 4.7-4.9, 1/4's in the 12's? I think there was a previous thread comparing the Stage 2 LGT with an STi and they were pretty comparable. However, I think the M3 pulls the STi after 80mph or so, where the meaty NA 6 still has a ton of power. My guess is you'll need to do a Stage 2.5 or 3 to keep up with a new M3 (Stage 3 being larger turbo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05LegacyGT330Ci Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 if smg is anything like the CVT then i would think that the 5spd would be better. my experience is with the cvt and it seems to have a delay between the physical nudge of the lever and the time it engages. Maybe SMG is not the same as cvt and if thats the case i apologize for making a complete @$$ of myself. No its not, Sequential M Manual Gerbox is the standard M3's 6 speed transimission with an added hyrdralically actuated clutch that is capable of shiting in .08 seconds. So yes Axis it does shift faster then a human can but this still does not make up for the launch were the manual has the definite edge. Once moving though transmission choice makes much less of a difference. Song of Post- Pink Floyd- The Great Gig In The Sky '05 Black Legacy GT Wagon 5-spd '02 Topaz/Black 330Ci 5-spd Drift Ryder's School of Rally Arts, coming to an Australia near you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue dragon Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 ^^ Well said, launch control rpm in North American M3s was lowered in an effort to spare the clutch. While the SMG can shift faster than a human, a human will launch better than the SMG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axis008 Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 Got it. Thanks for clearing that up. -ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerdave Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 I was about to chime in but SurfAvatarDude hit the nail on the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drift Monkey Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 I'll take one in manual please... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBE555 Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 I'll take and SMG version 2 thank you very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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