mbcracken Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Hi folks, I'm looking for some help in putting together a mod to mount some headlight washers to my 05 LegGTLmt Wagon. What I've found so far is pretty much everywhere else in the world, Subby offers these washers. I also know that they have to be a separate pump that runs at much higher volume. Anyone know where I can at least start to research this? I've googled the world and this site without any success. Cheers, Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJMC Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Here is a link on how to retrofit one onto a VW. http://www.bambergvr6.50megs.com/hella_washer.htm Seems pretty simple, you just need to find a place to mount them on the bumper beam... or may have to modify the beam to accomodate the washer nozzel. Also, you'll have to figure out how to wire it up. Here is another one I found... this is the one I was intending to post in the first place. Retro for one onto a Jetta. http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=62150 I know these aren't of retros onto a Legacy, but it gives you a good idea of the type of work involved in getting one fitted onto the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbcracken Posted January 25, 2007 Author Share Posted January 25, 2007 Doesn't look too bad, just a bunch of little work. I wonder if anyone off the Norht American Cont could get me some part numbers of the "stock" subby headlight washers (Europe or Australia) Cheers, Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Tang Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Both of those modifications use the self extending washer nozzles and are sort of specific to the VW bumpers. Has anyone considered the nozzles on the BMWs or Range Rovers which are always exposed? They sort of look like these: http://www.siemensvdo.com/products_solutions/replacement-parts/screen-and-headlight-washer-systems/washer-nozzles/washer-nozzles.htm http://www.siemensvdo.com/products_solutions/chassis-carbody/body_chassis_electronics/clear-vision/nozzles/static-headlight-cleaning/static-headlight-cleaning.htm These appear to only require a hole to be drilled on the bumper cover instead of a larger rectangular hole which then needs a cover for when the nozzles are not deployed. Those two links show nozzles which sit higher, but I've seen the BMW versions (http://www.kenrockwell.com/bmw/540headlights.htm)which are fairly low profile. Just curious as to whether anyone has looked into those. Here is a link on how to retrofit one onto a VW. http://www.bambergvr6.50megs.com/hella_washer.htm Seems pretty simple, you just need to find a place to mount them on the bumper beam... or may have to modify the beam to accomodate the washer nozzel. Also, you'll have to figure out how to wire it up. Here is another one I found... this is the one I was intending to post in the first place. Retro for one onto a Jetta. http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=62150 I know these aren't of retros onto a Legacy, but it gives you a good idea of the type of work involved in getting one fitted onto the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbcracken Posted January 29, 2007 Author Share Posted January 29, 2007 I was previously trying to find the retractable (R2-D2) ones just for cool factor, but in reviewing the Subby bumpers it may be tough to make those fit. I had not thought about BMW & Range Rover nozzles, but I like how flush they are to the bumper. I'm also working with a local MOD shop for other ideas. I'll definitely update this thread once I have more info. What I have learned so far is that I will need to add a second pump to produce the jet pressure needed to clear a headlamp without a wiper unit. The concern that I now am pondering is heated nozzles so they don't freeze in the winter. Cheers, Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-ma hole Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 FWIW- I had these in my Audi. It was a nice feature to have, but I would blow through wiper fluid. They went off whenever the head lighs were on. You may want to make sure that these are on a separate switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJMC Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 I was previously trying to find the retractable (R2-D2) ones just for cool factor, but in reviewing the Subby bumpers it may be tough to make those fit. I had not thought about BMW & Range Rover nozzles, but I like how flush they are to the bumper. I'm also working with a local MOD shop for other ideas. I'll definitely update this thread once I have more info. What I have learned so far is that I will need to add a second pump to produce the jet pressure needed to clear a headlamp without a wiper unit. The concern that I now am pondering is heated nozzles so they don't freeze in the winter. Cheers, Mike FYI - the washer bottle has a slot for a second nozzel. This second nozzel slot is for wagons (rear window). Since you have a wagon, you'll have to make a hole for a third, or find a location for a second reservoir. Yes, keep us up-to-date on this... This would be cool to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbcracken Posted January 29, 2007 Author Share Posted January 29, 2007 FWIW- I had these in my Audi. It was a nice feature to have, but I would blow through wiper fluid. They went off whenever the head lighs were on. You may want to make sure that these are on a separate switch. I too had them on my Audi and is now providing the motivation for this project. I seem to remember on my Audi the headlight washer would only kick on if I had the washer lever for more then X (3-5?) seconds. This would offer a small way to run out of fluid really fast. It also looks like BMW has a feature that only washes the headlights on every 5th windshield washing & the headlights would also have to be on. I did find this handy BMW schematic and parts needed for the very basic (non-telescopic) headlamp washers. Click Looks pretty simple which I need to do to make this work with the Subby bumper and keep it low cost. Cheers, Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Tang Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Nice, i was about to post the same link to the RealOEM site. I figure those parts can be had at a salvage yard for a fraction of the price. I don't imagine those parts seeing much wear and tear. As for heated nozzles, I never have had that happen to me on my windshield washer nozzles, and I've been living in the northeast all my life, including a four year stint in CT. I use either the Prestone or RainX brand washer fluids and I've felt that they possess enough anti-freeze compounds in them to prevent freezing, even at highway speeds. I think when I actually get to doing this project, i'll have a "kill switch" wired in so that I can shut down the headlamp washing pump when its not needed. I too had them on my Audi and is now providing the motivation for this project. I seem to remember on my Audi the headlight washer would only kick on if I had the washer lever for more then X (3-5?) seconds. This would offer a small way to run out of fluid really fast. It also looks like BMW has a feature that only washes the headlights on every 5th windshield washing & the headlights would also have to be on. I did find this handy BMW schematic and parts needed for the very basic (non-telescopic) headlamp washers. Click Looks pretty simple which I need to do to make this work with the Subby bumper and keep it low cost. Cheers, Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 FWIW: OEM EDM Subaru headlight washers turn on after holding the windshield spray button for 1 second and only when the headlights are on. Manual: http://www.subaru.pl/oferta/pdf/qrg/legacy-outback.pdf :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbcracken Posted January 29, 2007 Author Share Posted January 29, 2007 FWIW: OEM EDM Subaru headlight washers turn on after holding the windshield spray button for 1 second and only when the headlights are on. Manual: http://www.subaru.pl/oferta/pdf/qrg/legacy-outback.pdf :lol: If you say so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Tang Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 Any of you guys made any headway on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 Subscribing - keep us posted on your progress. SBT - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbcracken Posted June 20, 2008 Author Share Posted June 20, 2008 No progress yet. I tried to get a hold of some of the Subaru telescoping washers they sell in Europe. I sent out a couple emails to a English dealership, but never saw a reply. I really want the pop-up ones and was going tosee if I could keep psuedo OEM. To be honest, I spend more time wrenching my bicycles then my car. Cheers, Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03LegacyWgn Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 what about the volvo set ups? i know the XC and some of the other models have the washers on them. 03 BH Mods: Group A Alt & Crank Pullys and end links, CIA, JDM L7 Grille, JDM HID lights, JDM rear tails Stromung CBE, KYB GR2's W/ H&R springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 i've been wanting to do this. I was gonna go to a wreck yard and snatch them off an Audi or something My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 No progress yet. I tried to get a hold of some of the Subaru telescoping washers they sell in Europe. I sent out a couple emails to a English dealership, but never saw a reply. I really want the pop-up ones and was going tosee if I could keep psuedo OEM. To be honest, I spend more time wrenching my bicycles then my car. Cheers, Mike Which English dealership did you reach out to? If you haven't already, try Cheam Subaru. They've always been fairly quick in responding. Here's a link: http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9498&highlight=armrest+group+buy Let us know what you find out about the SOE ones. SBT - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derkahn Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 just drove down from breck this am and this is a mod we need... I bought good bulbs so I can see well but what good is that when after 10 minutes on the road the headlights are coated with grime ill start looking into this myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSiWRX Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Subscribed. This one's got my interest, too! <-- I love Winky, my "periwinkle" (ABP) LGT! - Allen / Usual Suspect "DumboRAT" / One of the Three Stooges '16 Outback, '16 WRX, 7th Subaru Family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongemonster Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 I think this is best a KISS kinda thing. The more complicated the more to go wrong. That said boy would it ever be nice to not have to worry about filthy lights all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboa113 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 stupid question.. but I've never really understood the purpose of headlight washers. I guess if you've got bugs all over your car or something? if it has a hold the button for 1 second and only when headlights are on type thing as was suggested it doesn't sound like an oem retrofit will work for us. That sounds like part of the BCM which may differ from usdm and edm/jdm markets (surprise!) "The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 stupid question.. but I've never really understood the purpose of headlight washers. I guess if you've got bugs all over your car or something? In snow country a salt-encrusted car is a common occurrence. That coating on the headlights can really cut down on the amount of light output. http://lh3.ggpht.com/_RW4-iMLYAys/RcZnwl5imbI/AAAAAAAABE0/lBWnT3GQfZk/P1000501.JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praedet Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Yeah, out here, about 10 minutes in a good snow and your headlights are at 50% of normal or less, I would LOVE to do this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Tang Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 me too...I've done a little research and it seems that the washer nozzles off of the BMWs would be the easist since they don't have any articulation... Yeah, out here, about 10 minutes in a good snow and your headlights are at 50% of normal or less, I would LOVE to do this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Tang Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Bump? I never got around to it 4 years ago...just wonder if anyone had done any kind of mod like this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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