AWD_Rules3830 Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 well i notice i had a bump in my clear coat on my front hood today, looking closely at it i noticed some orange spots near by ... i was like ... ohhh GREAT rail dust ... so i called Ming (auto beauty place, they do mirror finishing, some chemical that 'finishes' the paint and makes it really shiny, basically you dont have to wax your car ever (well they say 3 years). soo i call them and they say they can fix it and to call my dealer and tell them i talked to such and such and the guy from ming said it could be done by them actually under warranty ... OHH YES ... soo i call my dealer and tell them about it ... they were going to call me anyway and tell me my spoiler than i got was in, so im bringing the car in tuesday to repair a strach on the trunk lid (which im already nervous they arnt going to do it right) put the spoiler on and repair the rail dust dammage. fix my moonroof liner and fix the glove box as well. well i was talking to a friend of mine that used to work at a dealer ship in a nearby town, he said all they do is remove the rust but not the metal, now ming told me that this industrial fallout (rail dust) its a process to repair and wants me to take it in to look at it ... he told me they have to repair the rail dust before they can mirror finish it ... wonderful. (the car has been sitting on the lot for a year ... which is why we have the rail dust problem) Everything mechanical with the car is veyr sound ... i lvoe the car, it drives like a charm ... i just wish i didnt have paint problems idk if i want to try to convince the dealer to let ming do it ... i know they know more of what they are doing ... but if something goes wrong im afraid i cant hold them as much accountable as i could the dealer ... but im afraid the dealer isnt going to do anything but remove the rust itself ... sigh ... help me out on this one I love my car ... basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slickvic Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 basically you dont have to wax your car ever (well they say 3 years) I've heard these claims before. As far back as 1989 when the Acura dealer tried to sell me a "Magical" clearcoat finish on my new Integra that eliminated the need for waxing. Dont be so quick to believe them. If mirror finishing is truly revolutionary then please do post the info here so we can become believers. I am not trying to be an a$$, just want to warn you that there are countless aftermarket companies making pretty convincing claims. Hopefully OCDetails will chime in. I am not an expert, just a wary customer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praedet Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Using a clay bar on the car will remove the industrial fall-out.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallschirmjaeger Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Previously I had tried and tried to find clay bars with no luck and was about to order off the 'net. Lo and behold, walking thur Autozone on Thursday, guess what I found? Yep. so I've not got plans for the next nice weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iyalla Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Using a clay bar on the car will remove the industrial fall-out.. Stop waisting your money on miracle coats. Just get a clay bar and paint cleaner wax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew.anderson Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 As I just told the guy in the pinstrip thread. Ask OCDetails. He is the cosmetic car care guru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagcars26 Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Clay bar, FTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWD_Rules3830 Posted March 11, 2006 Author Share Posted March 11, 2006 i have know many people that come out of ming with great results ... but i will ask this OCD guy lol I love my car ... basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCDetails Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 All you ever wanted to know about rail dust and IFO No charge. I had an Integra for 5 years before I bought the Legacy. When I brought it to them after I noticed black dots on the back bumper they wanted to charge me $350 to remove them. I laughed so hard I peed all over the floor. I went home and took a piece of my $10 clay bar and fixed the problem in like 30 seconds. _________________________________________ “Cleanliness becomes more important as godliness becomes more unlikely.” O C D E T A I L S . C O M OCDETAILS BLOG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWD_Rules3830 Posted March 11, 2006 Author Share Posted March 11, 2006 well they told me they would do it under warranty ... i will ask them there process to do ... but if they dont remove the metal it self ill do it myself I love my car ... basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCDetails Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 IFO removal is usually a two part process. They will either use a clay bar or an acid bath to remove the metal. Clay is usually good enough, but acid is better. It is typically a product that is only sold in industrial quanities, so most people don't even know about that option. I use it for mainly removing waterspots, but it works on IFO too. Anyway, clay will pull the particles out just as well. After the particles are pulled out you need to use a paint cleaner to remove the stains that it left. They will either be orange/brown rust dots or little black dots. Sometimes they are just distortion in the color. You can see what I'm talking about a bit in this picture from my rental car last summer. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/OCDetails/Legacy%20nonGT/ifo.jpg Any paint cleaner will get the stains off, but you need clay to get the particles out. You can't get them all with just one product. Clay isn't designed to remove paint stains. Just a little tip... _________________________________________ “Cleanliness becomes more important as godliness becomes more unlikely.” O C D E T A I L S . C O M OCDETAILS BLOG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWD_Rules3830 Posted March 11, 2006 Author Share Posted March 11, 2006 well i suppose my warranty doesnt last forever lol I love my car ... basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCDetails Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 lol no it doesn't. I'd be surprised if this is covered under it too. IFO is just what happens if you have a car. It isn't a defect. Removing it is just part of proper car care. You can't avoid it, so it isn't something I would expect them to fix for free. It would be like taking your car in for warranty work because it got dirty in a snow storm. It happens... _________________________________________ “Cleanliness becomes more important as godliness becomes more unlikely.” O C D E T A I L S . C O M OCDETAILS BLOG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWD_Rules3830 Posted March 11, 2006 Author Share Posted March 11, 2006 well i just got he car a week ago and it has been sitting on there lot for a year soo this is mostly their fault for not covering the car ... lol I love my car ... basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCDetails Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 They should have just cleaned it up before they delivered it to you. That is probably the reason they are offering to clean it up now. I still say you should just do it yourself. Believe it or not, but dealership detailers more times than not, cause more problems than they fix. They could scratch the hell out of you car and the fill the scratches with some oily glaze that hides the damage for a couple weeks. By the time you find out about it they usually say it isn't their fault because you didn't say anything when you picked it up. However, if you are comfortable with that and you don't want to do it yourself, then take it back to them and have them fix it. _________________________________________ “Cleanliness becomes more important as godliness becomes more unlikely.” O C D E T A I L S . C O M OCDETAILS BLOG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWD_Rules3830 Posted March 11, 2006 Author Share Posted March 11, 2006 ill think about it I love my car ... basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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