05USdmGTgUy Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 at the subaru " ride and drive" event for salesman they had a cutaway of the 2.5 gt engine and i am 100% they DON'T have equall length headers. Mike.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drift Monkey Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 [quote name='05USdmGTgUy']at the subaru " ride and drive" event for salesman they had a cutaway of the 2.5 gt engine and i am 100% they DON'T have equall length headers. Mike....[/quote] ...and that's a good thing! Boxer burble!!!!111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaqtly Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 [quote name='Drift Monkey'] If you want to do magazine racing: WRX: 0-60 mph: 5.4 seconds (Car and Driver) 1/4 mile: 14.1 seconds @ 96 mph (Car and Driver) 227 hp, 217 lb-ft Curb weight: 3085 lb 350Z (Track) 0-60 mph: 5.4 seconds (Car and Driver) 1/4 mile: 14.1 seconds @ 101 mph (Car and Driver) 287 hp, 274 lb-ft Curb weight: 3,225 lb The trap may be higher, but the standing ET is still the same (as is the 0-60 time). Though the Z has an advantage in weight to power ratio, in a street situation (stop light) you take your pick at who would take who.[/quote] Yeah but that's mag racing. I was using actual manufacturer's stats, not really mag racing. Also, most people aren't getting 14.1s in WRXs, they're getting 14.5s. On the other hand, *most* people with 350Zs are getting 14 flats. ETs are useless for determining how fast a car is because it's all about launch and traction - and that's it. That doesn't tell you how fast it is from a roll, on the freeway or in any other circumstance - only the launch. That's why you have to look at trap speed to determine how fast a given car actually is. Also, I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here - obviously my preferences are for the LGT, and I had a WRX before this. But don't make the mistake of thinking you're going to beat a 350Z - you're not. Not when there's at least a 5 MPH difference in trap speed (or more, if we're talking about the WRX). You might get him on the launch, but the Z will just power right past you. In the rain, on the other hand... :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godwhomismike Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 [quote name='05LegacyGT330Ci']^ You are crazy I have never heard anyone say they don't like the way the Z or G35Cs exhuast sounds by far the best stock exhaust this side of a Porsche and up.[/quote] I beg to differ :D The Audi TT 3.2 exhaust is the greatest sounding exhaust this side of Porsche, it sounds like a mini ferrari - it's just that good :o But yeah the G35 and 350Z have great sounding exhausts. - Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ion Posted August 25, 2004 Author Share Posted August 25, 2004 haha - like I said - I did not want to start a heated debate!!! I AM thinking of switching to the LGT. But yeah I have to admit that I have raced a few WRX's (some stock, some modded) - and have yet to lose. But that was not at the track. And most were from a roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05LegacyGT330Ci Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 [quote name='godwhomismike'][quote name='05LegacyGT330Ci']^ You are crazy I have never heard anyone say they don't like the way the Z or G35Cs exhuast sounds by far the best stock exhaust this side of a Porsche and up.[/quote] I beg to differ :D The Audi TT 3.2 exhaust is the greatest sounding exhaust this side of Porsche, it sounds like a mini ferrari - it's just that good :o But yeah the G35 and 350Z have great sounding exhausts. - Mike[/quote] On that note (yes another intended pun) have you heard the new VW R32 that thing also sounds awesome and I agree it may sound better then the Z/ G35C. Im not sure if it uses the same exhuast as teh TT 3.2 though since I have not heard it or pay to much attention to the the TT. '05 Black Legacy GT Wagon 5-spd '02 Topaz/Black 330Ci 5-spd Drift Ryder's School of Rally Arts, coming to an Australia near you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louie Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 The LGT has to be trappig higher than 95, my 2002 wrx stock was trapping at 14.4@94mph unless you have a slip I think its best to keep the fishing stories on the lake. I do agree that a 350z is an overall winner in a race, its drage coef is lower like .28!!! so its lighter, more aerodynamic and has 30hp more at the crank and probably more at the wheel. But I do challenge anyone in a 350z or g35c to pack 2 carseat with 2 kids and a wife and baggage for a weekend at the beach and do that 1/4 race for the east bound lane on the bay bridge on a saturday morning in less than15 seconds. Can I get an AMEN!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT Ski Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 [quote name='louie'] But I do challenge anyone in a 350z or g35c to pack 2 carseat with 2 kids and a wife and baggage for a weekend at the beach and do that 1/4 race for the east bound lane on the bay bridge on a saturday morning in less than15 seconds. [/quote] Hmmm, east bound bay bridge... vacation... beach... you sound like a Maryland native! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderkind Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 tiew, if that's the criteria, the the STi stomps every car mentioned on this thread. case close. everybody go home now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louie Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 he he he- not a native, but have lived here for a few years...hon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ion Posted August 25, 2004 Author Share Posted August 25, 2004 haha - good point, good point. The Z is not known for its room for luggage. But if you are bringing the kids along - then is it really a vacation?? :D (jk) Nice to know the Subie crowd here is cool and shows respect to other cars outside of Subaru!! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drift Monkey Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 [quote name='Xaqtly']Yeah but that's mag racing. I was using actual manufacturer's stats, not really mag racing. Also, most people aren't getting 14.1s in WRXs, they're getting 14.5s. On the other hand, *most* people with 350Zs are getting 14 flats. ETs are useless for determining how fast a car is because it's all about launch and traction - and that's it. That doesn't tell you how fast it is from a roll, on the freeway or in any other circumstance - only the launch. That's why you have to look at trap speed to determine how fast a given car actually is. Also, I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here - obviously my preferences are for the LGT, and I had a WRX before this. But don't make the mistake of thinking you're going to beat a 350Z - you're not. Not when there's at least a 5 MPH difference in trap speed (or more, if we're talking about the WRX). You might get him on the launch, but the Z will just power right past you. In the rain, on the other hand... :D[/quote] As if actual manufacuter's specs are any more acurate? Just in case you didn't know, many stock WRX owners ARE reporting low 14 second passes, including 14.1 second runs. I don't know how the 350Z guys are doing, but I'd like to see slips. I agree the 350 should win on a roll, as it should, but stop light to stop light (these types of situations seem to occur often), the Z would be hard pressed to keep up. I'm sure the LGT will trap a bit higher than the WRX so.... Just for references, I never ran my 2002 WRX through the 1/4 but I have run the 1/8 mile. I got a 9.0xxx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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