legacy2005 Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 using a de-icer spray along the edges of the window would work to free up some of the window so it will be easier to open. Work hard. Play even harder. My Garage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sputnik Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Welcome to frameless windows. So, what's the benefit of the frameless windows? It's my first Subaru and I can't say I was too thrilled to discover it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NutBucket Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 The claims are you can make the body of the car stronger since the metal that is usually part of the frame is incorporated into the body. Another benefit is you won't kill you hands/fingers if the door closes on them (happened to me last friday). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacy2005 Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 plus you can look like a pimp in summer when you have your windows down and get out of the car. lol Work hard. Play even harder. My Garage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emorphien Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 So, what's the benefit of the frameless windows? It's my first Subaru and I can't say I was too thrilled to discover it. IMO it doesn't matter either way as both types can and do freeze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlierh2 Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 The true benefit is being able to slam your fingers in the door (glass part only:icon_tong ) and not even remeber it 5 minutes later. Can also be used to get as much sympathy as you could ever need:icon_mrgr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melayout Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 - Thinner door profile - Looks awesome when its down and open, targa - Unique on a sedan - It's a Subaru thang I keed I keeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iyalla Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 - Stiffer door for side impact protection. - Accident protection from the lack of frame intrusion during impact. What I don't like is the fact that the top of the glass rest against the rubber seal. Subaru is not the only one with frameless doors, the corvette, porche and mini have them. Porche and Mini seal the top of the window by having the window go into a channel at the top. How do they open the doors you ask? The windows go down a few millimeters when you pull the door handle. Cool huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emorphien Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Overly complicated, the subys work fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYNY Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 [quote name=Another suggestion was to pee on the window but on some days in Montreal the pee would probably freeze in mid-flight. quote] ah, the proven pee-method - more like when you're drunk and peeing on someone else's car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 In the January thread to which I referred earlier, someone suggested a lubricant sold at BMW dealerships that prevents the windows from sticking to the surround seals. The BMW product is called Gummy Fledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iyalla Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 The BMW product is called Gummy Fledge. Nice. Thats why I brought up the BMW, MINI and Porsche thing. I figure those guys might have come up with solutions to some of the problems Suby drivers face with the frameless design seeing as they use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slickvic Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 I just use armorall on the window seals and live with the smearing on the window edges. At least the windows dont freeze to the seals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlierh2 Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 so what happens when your window cant go down to open the door because its frozen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emorphien Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 so what happens when your window cant go down to open the door because its frozen? Haha ohh the stuck window dilemma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iyalla Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 so what happens when your window cant go down to open the door because its frozen? Get in through the tailgate lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emorphien Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Get in through the tailgate lol Hmm, I've had to get in to my old car through the passenger door before. The drivers door froze shut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amason Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 In the January thread to which I referred earlier, someone suggested a lubricant sold at BMW dealerships that prevents the windows from sticking to the surround seals. The ideal thing to use on the door seals is Silicone spray lubricant, which you can get at Canadian Tire for cheap, and it's probably the same thing that BMW sells for 3x as much. It basically displaces water in the rubber. I spray pretty much all of the rubber around the doors/hood/trunk, and they don't freeze shut all winter (I'm also anal and put graphite lube in all the locks). I think you're right that the windows freezing last week was due to the specific conditions (water than got in there and then froze, which happened to me last week as well), but that happens often enough that I'd like to fix it. I think the Silicone Lube would probably work there as well, and since it penetrates into the rubber, might not leave streaks. I'll test on a back window and probably forget to report back. I think I'll spray it and leave the windows open for quite a while (overnight in the garage). On another note, everything you ever wanted to know about windchill: http://www.msc.ec.gc.ca/education/windchill/index_e.cfm Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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