KoolAidMan26 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 So to add to the recent list of problems. I pulled in my parking spot tonight, and when the key was turned off. My car did not turn off. I could feel that something was broke in the cylinder. So to the question. Can I buy one of these used ones off eBay that come with a key and just use that? Or does the "new" key have to be programmed to the ECU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoolAidMan26 Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 So to add to the recent list of problems. I pulled in my parking spot tonight, and when the key was turned off. My car did not turn off. I could feel that something was broke in the cylinder. So to the question. Can I buy one of these used ones off eBay that come with a key and just use that? Or does the "new" key have to be programmed to the ECU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utc_pyro Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 It has to be programed if you want to do it right. There make remote start transponder bypass boxes though that can make it work though. You stick transponder form the old key in that box and plug that into the antenna so it thinks you're still using the old key. Not recommended though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utc_pyro Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 It has to be programed if you want to do it right. There make remote start transponder bypass boxes though that can make it work though. You stick transponder form the old key in that box and plug that into the antenna so it thinks you're still using the old key. Not recommended though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoolAidMan26 Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 There is an aftermarket remote start in the car. I wonder if the bypass module on that will already work. I had an issue where the only way the car would start was with the remote start. Apparently it was the cylinder failing back in October even though there was a 12v crank voltage. I guess I'll just try the used part and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoolAidMan26 Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 There is an aftermarket remote start in the car. I wonder if the bypass module on that will already work. I had an issue where the only way the car would start was with the remote start. Apparently it was the cylinder failing back in October even though there was a 12v crank voltage. I guess I'll just try the used part and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utc_pyro Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 There is an aftermarket remote start in the car. I wonder if the bypass module on that will already work. I had an issue where the only way the car would start was with the remote start. Apparently it was the cylinder failing back in October even though there was a 12v crank voltage. I guess I'll just try the used part and see what happens. Some of the fancier bypass modules requite a trigger from the remote start system to pass the signal, so you may have to do a few wiring tweaks to make it work. If it's just a dumb key holder box you should be good to go though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utc_pyro Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 There is an aftermarket remote start in the car. I wonder if the bypass module on that will already work. I had an issue where the only way the car would start was with the remote start. Apparently it was the cylinder failing back in October even though there was a 12v crank voltage. I guess I'll just try the used part and see what happens. Some of the fancier bypass modules requite a trigger from the remote start system to pass the signal, so you may have to do a few wiring tweaks to make it work. If it's just a dumb key holder box you should be good to go though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merc6 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Some of the fancier bypass modules requite a trigger from the remote start system to pass the signal, so you may have to do a few wiring tweaks to make it work. If it's just a dumb key holder box you should be good to go though Mine on the Legacy houses my Valet key and on my older car I had a few new keys cut but not programmed. I never ever got the universal ones to work (well the shops, I didn't wire SHAT) so I always lost a key. Only way they worked was remote start. I use to hide the unprogrammed key in the car and used the keypad for entry if I forgot my keys and was in a rush. 2005 Satin White Pearl Subaru Legacy 2.5 GT Unlimited 5EAT (Project Car) 2019 Agate Black Ford Explorer XLT 4WD (DD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merc6 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Some of the fancier bypass modules requite a trigger from the remote start system to pass the signal, so you may have to do a few wiring tweaks to make it work. If it's just a dumb key holder box you should be good to go though Mine on the Legacy houses my Valet key and on my older car I had a few new keys cut but not programmed. I never ever got the universal ones to work (well the shops, I didn't wire SHAT) so I always lost a key. Only way they worked was remote start. I use to hide the unprogrammed key in the car and used the keypad for entry if I forgot my keys and was in a rush. 2005 Satin White Pearl Subaru Legacy 2.5 GT Unlimited 5EAT (Project Car) 2019 Agate Black Ford Explorer XLT 4WD (DD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoolAidMan26 Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 Does anyone know what the price is for keys to be programmed/made? I would prefer to have more than one if I get one of these used ones off eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoolAidMan26 Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 Does anyone know what the price is for keys to be programmed/made? I would prefer to have more than one if I get one of these used ones off eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunny5280 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Does anyone know what the price is for keys to be programmed/made? I would prefer to have more than one if I get one of these used ones off eBay. Call around to some dealers for quotes. You may even want to try some indy's too (my BMW indy came in less than every BMW dealer). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunny5280 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Does anyone know what the price is for keys to be programmed/made? I would prefer to have more than one if I get one of these used ones off eBay. Call around to some dealers for quotes. You may even want to try some indy's too (my BMW indy came in less than every BMW dealer). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merc6 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Call around to some dealers for quotes. You may even want to try some indy's too (my BMW indy came in less than every BMW dealer). I think it was almost in the $200 something range. I had my keys done 3 times but the last 2 times was because ECU fried using AP V1 so it was all included into the price. I'm almost about to do it again to get the flip keys working unless I get the courage up to mutilate one of my oem keys for the chip. 2005 Satin White Pearl Subaru Legacy 2.5 GT Unlimited 5EAT (Project Car) 2019 Agate Black Ford Explorer XLT 4WD (DD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoolAidMan26 Posted March 18, 2017 Author Share Posted March 18, 2017 Update: installed junkyard ignition cylinder today. Remote start allows me to drive the car. The key has to be programmed. It's only $15. Currently sitting at the dealer waiting. Getting the top steering column cover off is a pain. Edit: The junkyard key could not be programmed to my car. Had to have a new key made for $89. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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