Brisvegas Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Just be sure you remove the correct drain plug. (A few others have not.) Actually it appears that it's more than just "a few." On various Subaru forums I was surprised to see it is not an uncommon error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wi_legacy2016 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Just be sure you remove the correct drain plug. (A few others have not.) If this is your Legacy's first oil change since new, be aware that the drain plug may be difficult to break loose and the gasket may be stuck to the oil pan (by paint). If you decide you want to continue doing your own oil changes (which I encourage), installing an oil drain valve (e.g. Fumoto) is highly recommended; it makes draining the oil almost a white-glove operation. I second this. If you're going to be doing your own oil changes and keeping the car for several years, a Fumoto valve will be well worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDTurbo Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) Proper ramps, like the Rhinos. Fumotovalve is a must have. (Though on the wagon I had to pry the motor forward to get it on! Not so on the Spec b.) I added a piece of plastic hose to assist with the draining, less guess on the stream! Paper towels for the inevitable errant stream wandering! Nitrile gloves! I have the filter wrench noted above, works great but I rarely need it as I only hand tighten and can hand-undo! I often take a nail and pound it into the filter bottom, remove and catch as much as possible in a plastic/Solo cup, dump it, and then unscrew the filter with the cup over it to catch the rest of the oil while unscrewing the filter. Take the filter down with it in the cup. Don't forget to lube the gasket of the new filter for easier removal. If you hadn't, and/or over tightened it, and crushed the filter trying to remove, try the olde "pound a screwdriver through the filter horizontally and remove using that leverage!" I change the oil/filter when the oil starts getting visibly dirty. Seems logical as the life blood of your engine. Edited November 4, 2019 by HDTurbo ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeardedWon Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Went with the rhino ramps. They actually arrived yesterday. This fomoto valve. I see the F108 fits our vehicles. Does the longer nipple version benefit us more? Or less? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmoney468 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 I change the oil/filter when the oil starts getting visibly dirty. Seems logical as the life blood of your engine. You really can’t judge oil just by looking at it. If you really want to know the life of an oil in your car, get a used oil analysis by someone like Blackstone. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeuEmMaiMai Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1. after you fill the car, let it sit for 5 mins and check oil 2. Then start car run it for a minute and check for leaks 3. let car sit for 5 mins and check oil again and add as needed. when filling the car with oil it will take a bit for it to drain from the head into the sump as for the crush washer, it typically sticks the the head of the bolt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ammcinnis Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 as for the crush washer, it typically sticks the the head of the bolt... Good point. "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there." ~ The Cheshire Cat (Alice in Wonderland) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me Q Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 I second this. If you're going to be doing your own oil changes and keeping the car for several years, a Fumoto valve will be well worth it. Very good advice. I prefer this over the Fumoto however. Not a huge deal but I like the push and turn feature to drain the oil. I also like the threaded on cap to help manage the misplaced paranoia I had with the Fumoto opening up on its own. https://www.stahlbus-us.com/stahlbus-oil-drain-valve-m16x15x12mm-steel-set.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeardedWon Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Changed the oil last night. It was almost too easy. Keep going over whether I forgot something. Thanks for the advice - next oil change I’ll probably look to add that fomoto valve. We will see how my 2hr drive for work goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDTurbo Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 You really can’t judge oil just by looking at it. If you really want to know the life of an oil in your car, get a used oil analysis by someone like Blackstone. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk But I can. And I do. 3k mi max. I’ve gotten Blackstone analysis done. I don’t put a lot of credence in their interpretations. I’m satisfied with my process and OCI. 241k mi on the wagon, 140k on Stage 2 tuning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastButReliable Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 I've done hundreds of oil changes on lots of different cars and have never been able to loosen it by hand. I've always assumed putting oil on the gasket is to help is seal better; I'm not sure how much it helps with making it easier to take off. I'm sure you'll be better prepared next time. Sent from my moto g(6) using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me Q Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 I've done hundreds of oil changes on lots of different cars and have never been able to loosen it by hand. I've always assumed putting oil on the gasket is to help is seal better; I'm not sure how much it helps with making it easier to take off. I'm sure you'll be better prepared next time. Sent from my moto g(6) using Tapatalk I always thought it was to keep the gasket from sticking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 I always put oil on the gasket and I never have had a hard time taking the filter off. Usually I can do it by hand but a few times I've had to get it started with those big grippy filter pliers. The only filters I've ever had to destroy to remove are the ones put on a new motor by a car manufacturer. So yes, I always smear a film of oil on the filter gasket. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeardedWon Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 (2) 200+ mile trips down. 5quarts still shows 3/4 filled between holes in the dipstick. Before this I had a truck - took it to 165000 miles without any issues (did do brakes, motor mounts and 2 new sets of tires) - otherwise, I changed the oil every 3-5000 miles. Drive a lot for work - trying to change that here, but we will see if I can resist the expense money. Always took it to a local joint or dealership for a $20-40 dollar oil change. Doing it myself with the Legacy - I'll spend less than I did with the truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastButReliable Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 I always thought it was to keep the gasket from sticking.It might do both Sent from my moto g(6) using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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