taylormac1993 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Is it possible to delete the abs system in a 98 Legacy Outback? Been dealing with a messed up abs ring for a while and im not about to pay $100 for one online, plus getting a new wheel bearing pressed in. Ive looked into getting a new spindle from a scrap yard and all of them are rusted to pieces. It seems much easier just to delete the whole abs system and have a couple adapters made to put in place of the abs unit under the hood. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stang70Fastback Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Why not just pull the fuse? Sure, the light comes on, but... better than your complicated alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnegg Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Is it possible to delete the abs system in a 98 Legacy Outback? pull the fuse. and then, go to http://www.car-part.com and buy an assembly. sort your search by price. and then buy one from a NON- rust state, like arizona or maybe texas. have it shipped to your door , 35$ - 45$ total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnegg Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 are you sure it is the tone ring that is busted? it the tone ring looks ok, maybe there are metal filings, and rust on the sensor tip, they are magnetic. cleaning may help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylormac1993 Posted August 10, 2014 Author Share Posted August 10, 2014 Why not just pull the fuse? Sure, the light comes on, but... better than your complicated alternative. I didnt know it was that simple... I was under the impression that if you disabled abs without replacing the abs unit with hard lines, that the abs unit would still alter the pressure applied to the brake lines and cause warping. Anyway, thats what ive experienced. Ill try pulling the fuse. are you sure it is the tone ring that is busted? it the tone ring looks ok, maybe there are metal filings, and rust on the sensor tip, they are magnetic. cleaning may help. Yeah i busted the abs ring trying to tap a lug stud into place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylormac1993 Posted August 11, 2014 Author Share Posted August 11, 2014 Also searched car-parts and couldnt find it listed. Closest thing i found was a hub and the cheapest one is $100 from California... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stang70Fastback Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I didnt know it was that simple... I was under the impression that if you disabled abs without replacing the abs unit with hard lines, that the abs unit would still alter the pressure applied to the brake lines and cause warping. Anyway, thats what ive experienced. Ill try pulling the fuse. Nah. Just makes you more likely to rear-end someone / spin out in the rain. Drive safely and probably eventually get that tone ring replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylormac1993 Posted August 11, 2014 Author Share Posted August 11, 2014 Nah. Just makes you more likely to rear-end someone / spin out in the rain. Drive safely and probably eventually get that tone ring replaced. That tone ring is gonna cost me a damn fortune though. Do you know if any retailers or aftermarket brands that make them for our cars? I dont wanna have to get it at a dealership... But just in case, do you happen to have a part number too? Haha Thanks guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erickrocks1126 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 That tone ring is gonna cost me a damn fortune though. Do you know if any retailers or aftermarket brands that make them for our cars? I dont wanna have to get it at a dealership... But just in case, do you happen to have a part number too? Haha Thanks guys I think it's item #11 on this link: http://opposedforces.com/parts/legacy/us_b11/type_47/suspension_and_axle/front_axle/illustration_1/ Quick google searches show around $100, +/- some for OE, depending on where you look. Here's one for just under $100 http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUBARU-OEM-90-99-Legacy-Brake-Front-ABS-Rotor-Right-26750AA003-/360986765970?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item540c7cea92&vxp=mtr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnegg Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 front or rear? the fronts are call a knee assembly, maybe ''front strut assembly''. the knee assembly will come with the strut. the rear are most often found under ''spindle''. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylormac1993 Posted August 11, 2014 Author Share Posted August 11, 2014 Its the front driver. Thanks ill take another look there after i call the dealer again and try to get ahold of someone lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnegg Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Its the front driver. Thanks ill take another look there sort your search by price and look to the bottom for the cheap ones. then pick a state where there is little to no rust, like arizona. you may have to call once you pick your source, to get exactly what you want. you can also sort by zip code to see what is close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylormac1993 Posted August 12, 2014 Author Share Posted August 12, 2014 sort your search by price and look to the bottom for the cheap ones. then pick a state where there is little to no rust, like arizona. you may have to call once you pick your source, to get exactly what you want. you can also sort by zip code to see what is close. Yeah the dealer wants a little under $140 for just the ring. Ill be looking all over that site for one. Thanks man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyposeur Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Deleting the ABS looks like a pretty big job. Check out this thread from rs2.5 and see if you still want to do it. http://www.rs25.com/forums/f105/t75174-diy-abs-delete-whole-thing.html You would spend at least $200 in materials for the delete according to the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnegg Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 deleting is dramatically different from disabling. plus, for the cost of a used replacement hub / knuckle assembly the system can be operational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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taylormac1993 Posted February 6, 2015 Author Share Posted February 6, 2015 UPDATE: I replaced the tone ring. Twice. First I bought the wrong part from Advance Auto Parts (WorldPac) and had to return it and get one from Subaru. Several hundred dollars and two new wheel bearings later, I got it all put together the right way. Problem is my ABS light is still on and I can't figure out how (or I'm too lazy to actually try) to read the ABS codes. I haven't tried pulling the fuse yet which I'm about to go do. PROBLEM: The ABS light is on, the car functions quite normally. The brakes are a little spongy (bleeding them again here soon) and they have minimal power, but I can drive the car in a normal and safe manner with the ABS malfunctioning. When the ABS light is OFF however, I have almost no brakes whatsoever. I depress the pedal (which is much more responsive than with the light off) and I hear the pump start groaning and pinging but nothing happens. When I'm down to about 10 or 5 mph the brake pedal will then suddenly function normally, causing me to brake check whoever is behind me. I have no clue what could be going on. I'm terrible with ABS systems, which is why I wanted to delete it in the first place. However it seems like it would be cheaper and easier to just fix the damn thing and live with my Anti-Brake System. Thoughts anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjkroll Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Pull the fuse and you lose the cruise control, which was a huge killer for me. I'm in the same boat, but only because every time I have to pull a knuckle the damn ABS sensor breaks off. It was awfully cold, so I wasn't up for the helicoil route. Maybe some other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylormac1993 Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 I dont have cruise control anyway thanks to my 5mt swap. Any other concerns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack60 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Just unplug one of your sensors, ABS light will stay on but brake will work like you don't have ABS and if you have cruise control it will still work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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