Ironcheflove Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Well looks like I have to replace my 2.2 L with 186-130 compression and the 130 jumped up to 160+ when I put some oil in and retest. Anyone know of any great importers in the Portland, OR area or that offer free shipping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnegg Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 http://www.car-part.com sort by zip code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooln30 Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Free shipping, all they do is jack the price of the engine up to make up for the free shipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironcheflove Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share Posted April 30, 2014 Was able to find one locally, thank god. Compression averages 180 and besides a couple seals looks in great shape. So my question is with the compression within specs should I bother with pulling the heads off and putting new gaskets on and a decking of the heads or let sleeping babies lay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnegg Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 with the compression within specs should I bother with pulling the heads off and putting new gaskets on and a decking of the heads or let sleeping babies lay? professional might say yes, but on an ej22 i never would. they have an amazing track record, they run for ever, head gaskets do not fail very often, and they will take a lot of abuse. plus, you can do them in the car without removing the valve covers. but if you know what you are doing, and have the time and money, and need to be 99.9% sure, (there are no guarantees) then have at it. it will cost about 80$ for the gaskets, head & intake, plus the machine shop money. but i know one guy who has pulled six ej22s from the parts yard, and installed them in ej25 cars, not a dud in the bunch. but for sure you should replace all the timing components and front seals. not all ej22 are non-interference. what year engine did you find? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironcheflove Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share Posted April 30, 2014 I found another 97 so it couldn't have gotten easier I suppose. I'm just going to move over the new timing components from the old EJ22 to the "new" EJ22 and all those nice new components in the EGR system too. LOL So head bolt reuse is ok? Thought they had to be replaced, (one use only). I thinking I should go ahead and do it right and complete, head gasket, oil seals, etc. I've got her out and I can take my time since the old engine hasn't died yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnegg Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 if you are using a 97 ej22 as you said, ytou will need the exhaust y-pipe, manifold. the ej25 has dual port heads, the 97 ej22 has single port. the head bolts do not need to be replaced unless they are damaged, corroded, rusted, pitted, what ever. i recommend subaru or felpro for head gaskets. i do not recommend a ''head gasket kit'', you will end up with tons of parts you do not use. for the timing parts, rockauto.com amazon, or ''theimportexperts'' on ebay. for seals i recommend subaru parts either local or online dealer. they will run you $30 - $40 but you will not have to worry. and lastly, replace the oil separator plate on the rear of the block if it is plastic. (they leak as they age.) the plate and ''new screws'' will run about $35 from a dealer. check out some of the older post with tips and ''how to'' info. search is your friend, "ej25 swap". http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/engine-compatibility-150403.html?t=150403&highlight=ej25+swap http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/engine-tranny-interchangable-question-154340.html?t=154340&highlight=theimportexperts http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/best-order-subaru-partsi-180764.html?t=180764&highlight=theimportexperts good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironcheflove Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share Posted April 30, 2014 I guess I should be more clear. My 97 Leggie already has a EJ22 in it. It came with it stock from what I hear. I'm just replacing it straight over. I wish I had the time and money to do a turbo swap though... LOL Thanks for the heads up about the separator plate I didn't know about that. I'll be moving over the Gates timing set that I already installed on the old EJ22 a couple hundred miles ago as well as other things I've replaced in the chasing down of a P0400 that ended up being a intake manifold leak and now that that problem is fixed the misfire code showed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnegg Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 ok, but the tips regarding removal and install still apply. as does the info regarding what to do to the engine before you install it. it will not take long to read those posts and you may learn something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subarujo3 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 I have a 2.5 legacy gt 97 I I need to know what order the coils go I have two libg and two short wires I have called three subaru mechanics and none of them seem to know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnegg Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 i'm not sure i understand. all the 97 GT 2.5L engines i have ever seen only have one coil, mounted on the top of the intake, and four plug wires. one wire goes to each spark plug. the the H shape of the coil matches the H shape of the cylinders / plugs. there are some engines that have ''coil on plug'' set ups, but i have only seen that on the H6 ez30, 3.0 L engines. but on the 97 2.5L engine, the left front coil connector goes to the feft front spark plug. right front to the right front. left rear to the left rear, right rear to the right rear. does this help? this is not like a 4 cylinder engine with a distributor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironcheflove Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share Posted April 30, 2014 Thanks for the info Johnegg. I have to say so far of all the cars I've worked on in my life... Ford, Chevy, Toy, etc... Subarus have been the easiest. I can't wait to get her running 100% and start working on making her more fun to drive. Already have the 4EAT mod planned and looking into slowly upgrading the brakes. If I upgrade to SS lines now with the stock 97 leggy brakes will they work when I upgrade or will I need new SS lines when I get the upgraded calipers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnegg Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 the lines are all the same ... maybe when you get up to the WRX they might be different, i don;t know. the rear brakes on the lego L , LS, LSi outback, GT, forester, are all the same. well some low end legos may have drums. but the front on the outbacks, GTs are 2 pot, probably LSi as well. legacy brighton, L and i think LS are all single pot up front. not sure about the foresters, i only do legos. but there are a lot of different caliper / rotor combos out there. so when you get around to making a swap, remember where the brakes came from. finding the right parts later could be a problem if you do not know the source of the brakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironcheflove Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 I'm hoping to go from SS lines w/ stock up to WRX when I get the money for the wheels, tires, and brake parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooln30 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I wouldn't break open a 2.2 with that good of compression numbers. Just fix any leaks, check the timing belt and swap it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironcheflove Posted May 19, 2014 Author Share Posted May 19, 2014 Well finally got time to put the used engine in. Just left the heads on but replaced all the other stuff. Thought I got screwd when I started it up and it sounded like a lawn mower but after a closer look I just forgot the EGR tube connection. Did have trouble lining up the trannie and engine. Had trannie jacked up then down every which way but for some reason I just couldn't wrestle it together the last 1/4 inch. After hrs of wiggling it finally came together enough to get a nut started on a stud and then it came together. Now to figure out what to do with this old engine. Is there much of a market for a low compression EJ22? Think I can get $200 for it on CL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnegg Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 I just couldn't wrestle it together the last 1/4 inch. After hrs of wiggling it finally came together enough to get a nut started on a stud and then it came together. have you test driven it yet? is it an auto trans? did the torque converter come out of the trans when you pulled the old engine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironcheflove Posted May 20, 2014 Author Share Posted May 20, 2014 I've started a new topic on it... I think I really fu^&%d something up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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