plm42

Hey everyone.

I've had a rare, though recurring transmission slippage issue.

When driving at a constant 125-130 km/h (75-80 MPH) for a long distance, the transmission will start slipping after some time. Slip is very noticeable and lasts for half a second at most, but will continue unless I lower my speed for a while.

The engine RPM is stable, no water or issue of any kind that might cause the symptoms.

I tried reproducing the issue with and without cruise control - same behavior occurs.

The car (and transmission) is still under warranty, but I wanted to ask anyone else out there if you had the same issue.

Only occurs when driving continuously at these higher speeds (may be a tad fast for Canada, but it's the regular speed limit for many US states, as I understand it...)

I am hearing more and more about the Thermo control value issue on 2020+ 2.5L engines and Subaru Canada has TSB now ....

Can any one please post Canadian TSB 09-04-21

 

US TSB is available here which covers as Powertain coverage while in Canada subaru choose to discriminates us covering only 60K and 3 years.

 

why discriminating behaviour while issue is same, part is same and car is same..

 

its expensive $2K repair out of pocket as they are failing between 50K and 80K

As far as I'm aware, the warranty for the Canadian and US markets is the same

(Full Warranty --> 36K MILES/3 Years USA = 60K KM/3 years)

(Powertrain --> 60K MILES/5 Years USA = 100K KM/5 years)

I can't speak to how this specific issue has been handled by Subaru thus far, but it should be covered, even outside warranty, since it constitutes a manufacturing/design defect. The TSB itself proves that.

I can't speak for other provinces, but it should be covered under Québec law (Source: Am a civil litigation lawyer)

Where did you get these? I'm shamelessly gimmicky!

Amazon! For something like 20$

Light had a bit of play, something like 2 mm (1/128"). A tiny piece of tap was sufficient to stabilize it.

Oh and uhhhh... What do you mean when you say "shame"? Not sure I've ever heard of such a thing as "shame"

/s

I was inspired by a colleague of mine who was showing off his welcome lighting on an Audi. A 200$ option on Audi's website

I've had the same issue and was wondering whether I was alone or not.

I've only had it happen with my passenger window during winter (There's not actually much snow on the first video. Mostly humidity from the indoor parking garage).

https://streamable.com/2jr4h0

Seems likely that the fix is the TSB linked by Stuff

Here is the thread, doesn't look like it's an easy solution: https://www.subaruoutback.org/threads/adding-heated-steering-wheel-to-onyx-xt.517257/

 

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Huh. Thanks for the link!

Funny enough, the Outback thread was inactive for almost a whole year, only to come back alive 8 days ago. Guess I'm not the only one seeing snow and thinking about my steering wheel

Hey guys,

Just wondering if anyone has looked into retrofitting a HEATED steering wheel to replace their non-heated steering on a 2020+ model.

I know this was discussed by a couple people in the 2015-2019 forum, but the main issue was the fact that it'd have to be retrofitted with an Outback steering.

However, now that the higher trim Legacy has a heated wheel, would the replacement be any easier?

For anyone asking, obviously, buying a limited trim with the standard heating wheel would be the better option. I'm just thinking out loud here (and might consider doing it if it's easy enough.....)

Kinda gimmicky, but I like it!

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Best one on my turbo is 7.5 litres or 31mpg and 860km with 4 ish litres to spare so far.

 

Colder weather is impacting it quite a bit now and the highest consumption was 9.6 litres or 24.5mpg with -11 celsius on hilly terrain.

 

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I don't baby the throttle as much I should. However, I don't consider myself a maniac.

Is it possible that, off boost, the 2.4t has a better fuel economy than the 2.5 [emoji848]

Or are you guys driving 90kmh/55mph while I'm driving 75 mph? [emoji28]

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Ground clearance really isn't an issue for me.

I actually went into deep forest trails last weekend, and though I was scared a few times regarding ground clearance, after stopping a few times by precaution, I finally ended up seeing that the ground clearance is actually fairly impressive for a car.

I usually baby my cars, but what a blast it was driving on dirt forest roads!!

PS: Love the fact that I have my 2015's Legacy wheels. Already have winter tires on for the upcoming Canadian winter

As far as I can see it has nothing to do with AVH. It's about ASS (sorry, Auto Start Stop) feature. The last state (on or off) has been memorized and when you start you engine it's in that position (obviously OFF in my case). However you can still change it in normal way if you wish.

 

Again, to clarify: This does not apply to AVH. AVH still defaults to off every time you start the engine.

It doesn't seem like it would be complicated for them to add AVH. However, they don't have an outback/legacy nearby for testing purposes.

I'd gladly help, but it would be a long journey going from Canada to WV.... Especially with the border closed and all.... [emoji52]

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For those who doesn’t like this thing like me. I have received and installed that device previously discussed. Took me literally 5 minutes. Just followed the instructions on the video. Works great ( as expected). I’m very happy!

I always drive with auto S/S off and AVH on. Would most likely be buying in a second if the device did both. Otherwise, I'll still have to turn on AVH every ignition anyhow.

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There is a setting in the main screen, to make touching the driver side dour handle open all four doors.

Not near my car at the moment, but it was one of the first things the dealer changed and told me about regarding the center infotainment screen.

The fact that all doors open when the passenger side door handle is touched is expected behavior.

The reasoning seems to be that if someone is climbing into the car as a passenger, there necessarily is a driver climbing into the driver-side; When climbing in as a driver, there is no indication that someone else is coming along with you.

I can confirm that the update files posted by chvvkumar on the Outback forum (https://www.subaruoutback.org/threads/2020-outback-software-gigathread.517684/page-35#post-5983591)

Worked with no issue on my mid-trim Legacy. BE AWARE, if you update a mid trim Legacy or Outback, everyone has been receiving an error message at the end of the update, when to progress bar is completed. You may disregard and follow the TSB's steps.

Once the car is restarted and the screen reboots, everything is properly installed and updated. Being capable of turning off Auto start/stop in 2 clicks alone is worth the update. In my opinion, there is not much of a reason to have your dealer update the car, or worse to pay for your dealer to update it.

You'd have to be really bad to brick your unit. Just my two cents.

Does 2020 Legacy have actual tire readings in Canada?

 

 

 

Owners manual shows how to do it but says US models?

 

 

 

Not in settings anywhere.

A good thing if you ask me. One less thing to worry about when buying tires.

You can use any simple pressure gauge bought at your local Canadian tire.

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So it happened again yesterday. I tried turning off the car and opening the door and restarting it. That didn't work. Then i tried turning off bluetooth on my phone and back on again and that didn't work. The problem is when you are driving the phone keeps getting a message that the car wants to pair and if you click connect, it fails, but i keep getting the beeps constantly unless i turn off bluetooth.

 

 

 

The final thing that i tried is to change the name my phone for bluetooth. i had a space in the name and i was thinking maybe that could be the issue.

For me, the only fix is to delete my android phone from the Legacy head unit, then to pair it back with the car.

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Oops. Should have looked further in the manual. My bad.

See the attached page to the present post, in case someone has the same question as me in the future.

Hey guys,

Unfortunately, the manual isn't very helpful when trying to see what model light bulb is inside the trunk (See page 514 of the user manual).

Does anyone know what the bulb model is? I'm looking to replace the standard halogen with a brighter LED.

Has anyone had Eyesight turn off while driving?

 

I get a message every once in awhile saying eyesight is disabled and it doesn't come back until i turn off the car and turn it back on again.

 

 

 

I tried manually disabling all the stuff and reenabling it and did a check with the app, but it said all was good.

That being said, eyesight reactivates a few minutes/seconds after the windshield is cleared.

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Good to know my sentiment regarding an early oil change is echoed by you guys.

Seems like I'll stick to my line of thought and do an early oil change.

The dealership is easily accessible for me, so I may have them do it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Ok? Put gas in car and drive away with a properly sealed gas cap. There is no issue here

I too was (mildly) surprised at first when I got my previous legacy. Contrary to my previous vehicles from other manufacturers, the gas nozzle never seemed to quite go in.

I can report for OP that this caused no issue to my previous legacy, nor does it cause any with my current 2020.

Happy driving/refueling OP! [emoji6]

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Hey guys!

What are your thoughts on doing a preemptive oil change after engine break-in on the 2020 Legacy?

I'm gonna hit 1200 miles/2000 KM soon and I'm thinking of doing an oil change preemptively.

I've seen my fuel consumption drop very noticeably during break-in and it seems like a trivial expense, considering the engine oil's most demanding use case is probably engine break-in.

What do you guys think?

Huh. I find it interesting that you would be getting 34 mpg with the xt model.

My 2.5 2020 is averaging 27 mpg after 500 miles (8.6L/100km after 900 kilometers). Though I am usually a driver with a moderately heavy foot, I have been driving very conservatively for break in, with 60/40 (highway/city).

Since my previous 2015 legacy was averaging 29 mpg (With spirited driving), I'm guessing I can expect somewhat better fuel economy with the 2020

Hey guys,

One thing that I haven't seen any reviewer point out with 2020+ Legacy is the quality of the heating system and air/heat insulation.

As crazy as it might seem, it is one of the major differences I see between my previous 2015 Legacy and the 2020 model (Though I am aware the heating system was updated in 2016 or 2017 if I recall correctly).

Not only does the heater output more heat, there are less cold air currents inside the cabin due to better insulation overall.

Just an FYI if a prospective buyer is curious about the info