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    2007-2009 Spec.B Production Numbers

    in Fourth Generation Legacy (2005 - 2009)

    Posted

    In the US, model years are offset. The next model year cars are available in the fall, so the manufacturer is beginning production even earlier than that. Subaru produced the bulk of the 08 Spec.Bs from 03/07 to 04/08. Your car as an 04/07 date would've been somewhat early, but there were over 150 '08 Spec.Bs produced by the end of April '07 already.

     

     

     

    The JDM "Type" designations do refer to small changes throughout the production of a JDM vehicle generation. Sometimes the JDM Type designation does not match up to a USDM car's production date exactly. Someone here who is more well-versed in the differences between JDM and USDM can probably tell you more.

     

     

    If you give me the last 5 digits of your VIN I can tell you exactly what sequence number and day your car was produced.

     

     

     

    At 9:38AM Pacific Time this morning my brain got totally scrambled. That's when I looked at the manufacture date for my relatively new to me 08 specB.

     

    Last Sept I bought what I was told is an 08 specB

    The VIN says it's an 08 specB

    I've confirmed the bits and pieces an 08 specB is supposed to have

    Everything says it's an 08 specB

     

    ... so can someone tell me why it has an 04/07 manufacture date?

     

    The Legacy/Liberty B4 platform is an awesome car around the world. Some very cool parts and pieces are available for it from Subaru and STi. I'd like to do some mods to the car with them. Easy international shipping sure is nice nowadays.

     

    One thing I came across was that some JDM part's were "type" specific. Huh? More searching led me to believe it had to do with manufacture date. For me the important ones were I believe type-D Mar 07 to Mar 08, type-E Mar08 to Mar09, type-F Mar09 to Mar10. Or, some such. Kept finding parts that fit "B4 BL type D", etc.

     

    So, out I go to the car this morning and I see 04/07!?!?! Two hours of thorough searching all over the international internet and I have no answer for the difference. Was this 08 car actually built that early in 07?

     

    This thread is the best place I know to drop this post.

     

    Can anyone shed some light? Heck, I may not of even correctly deciphered what the "type" is supposed to mean. Thanks. Resbum

    2007-2009 Spec.B Production Numbers

    in Fourth Generation Legacy (2005 - 2009)

    Posted

    autocheck and carfax have an api, so you can query for vin to find out basic details. If it was totaled, the report will tell you (or it used to).

    They tell you how many records there are for a VIN, but any more info and you have to pay. I was curious about the RBP cars, so I ran them and 0 records which means they were never even titled once. NICB has a free check for salvage records, but they have a CAPTCHA so it's one by one and I have no time to run hundreds of Spec.B VINs through just for a guess as to how many were wrecked.

     

    So you're telling me that I have one of 432 cars produced? Wow.

    Hey, don't feel too special, my 5-speed GT Limited wagon in OBP with black leather is 1 of 91. :cool:

    2007-2009 Spec.B Production Numbers

    in Fourth Generation Legacy (2005 - 2009)

    Posted · Edited by Alphius
    Add Canada numbers

    I have recently extracted the production numbers for all US market Subarus from roughly 1995-2010. The information comes from the parts lookup program with VIN database that Subaru dealers used.

     

    I figured a good place to start is with production numbers for the 07-09 Spec.B.

     

    Enjoy!

     

    2007 - 450

    432 were DGM

    16 were BSM (Likely preproduction test or promo cars)

    2 were RBP (Likely preproduction test or promo cars)

     

    2008 - 653

    380 were DGM

    271 were QSM

    2 were color code 01W [Premium Red?] (Likely preproduction test or promo cars)

     

    2009 - 112

    31 were DGM

    28 were QSM

    24 were OBP

    16 were SWP

    13 were RRM

     

    EDIT: As requested, Canadian Spec.B production numbers:

     

    2007 - 139

    138 DGM 2007 Canada delivered.

    1 BSM 2007 Canada delivered, probably a press car or test car because it's a very early VIN. Produced much earlier than the rest of the 2007 Spec.Bs.

     

    2008 - 78

    40 DGM 2008 Canada delivered.

    38 QSM 2008 Canada delivered.

     

    2009 - 48

    28 SWP 2009 Canada delivered.

    20 DGM 2009 Canada delivered.

    Production Numbers?

    in Fourth Generation Legacy (2005 - 2009)

    Posted

    I have recently extracted production numbers from the OEM Subaru parts utility. Here's the numbers according to that source.

     

    2008 Newport Blue Pearl 2.5GT Limited - 293 Produced

    Manual - 98

    Auto - 195

     

    2009 Newport Blue Pearl 2.5GT Limited - 173 Produced

    Manual - 31

    Auto - 142

     

    All of them had tan leather interior.

    A/C Issues...Possible Culprits?

    in Fourth Generation Legacy (2005 - 2009)

    Posted

    A lot of you have described what happened over the long run with me before it finally going out (more or less). Most of the time, the A/C would work fine. Once every few months it'd blow hot instead of cold for a little bit before kicking back over to cold.

     

    With your suggestions in mind, I'm actually going to take it to the closest Subaru dealership and have them take a look at it. Especially if it ends up being the relay since that sounds like it'll be a significantly cheaper fix than I was quoted by the local shop.

     

    Edit: After I find and replace the relay. Because that is something I can comfortably do (my biggest wrenching experiences are things like changing oil, air filters, bulbs, etc.)

     

    The relay is easy to find. It's in the fusebox under the hood; if you look at the underside of the lid after you take it off, there is a diagram of all the relay and fuse locations.

    A/C Issues...Possible Culprits?

    in Fourth Generation Legacy (2005 - 2009)

    Posted

    Interesting. I am having almost exactly the same problem. Most of the time it works fine, but sometimes for not apparent reason, just starts blowing hot air. It feels like the compressor is kicking in, but I need to investigate that further.

     

    Thanks for the A/C clutch relay tip. Will have to double check that, as well as the actual clutch on the compressor.

     

    My outside air temperature display is working fine.

     

    I did have the system leak checked and recharged which improved it's performance when working, but didn't solve the problem.

     

    It's been intermittent for awhile, but it's starting to happen more and more often.

    Completely random. Sometimes at startup, sometimes after driving for awhile.

    Sometimes only for a few seconds, sometimes for a couple of days. Weird.

     

    These symptoms are the exact symptoms I had when my relay was failing. I bet that's your problem!

    A/C Issues...Possible Culprits?

    in Fourth Generation Legacy (2005 - 2009)

    Posted · Edited by Alphius

    Did the A/C work fine before? Have you had it worked on anytime recently? It seems suspect to me that the shop immediately jumped to an overcharged diagnosis since somebody would've had to add refrigerant at some point for it to be overcharged. Is the compressor clutch engaged when it is blowing warm air? I'm an amateur A/C guy with all the proper professional equipment.

     

    I had a similar issue that ended up being a failing A/C clutch relay in the fusebox. If I tapped the relay the clutch would kick on, but in normal use it only worked maybe 10% of the time. Replaced the relay, and all is well.

     

    Outside temperature gauge behavior seems totally normal to me.

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