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Dead battery #3 this morning. These suckers do not like extreme cold.

The only thing not included in the extended warranty coverage is the battery.

Save yourself the time and aggravation and buy a replacement at Costco or PepBoys. Both have great values.

Also, spend the extra $10 and buy an AGM battery. You'll be grateful when it gets cold.

 

Subaru OEM wipers do not function well in the snow as they have a tenancy to ice up

Agree.

I buy the top of the line Bosch winter friendly blades from Amazon or have them price-matched from Amazon at AutoZone.

Possible issues:

-- You have a limited which comes with an amp, which I believe is located under the passenger seat. If it gets wet or shorts out, world hold on.

-- You have a bad control connection or short in the steering-wheel-mounted remote volume control.

-- Your radio is end of life. It will need to be replaced.

A Legacy on factory tires in the UP is a death wish. Please don't try it. You'll get stuck in your own driveway.

Also, I strongly suggest you get a new battery with a higher CCA (Cold Cranking Amp rating), or you'll be left stranded.

You may also want to consider a decent remote starter. Skip the fob nonsense and get a Drone cellular remote start system. It will even tell you the temperature inside the car!

The car will look like an AMC eagle.

No. 2019 has a different wiring harness.

We all wish we could have CarPlay/Android Auto

Try Rain-X DeIcer washer fluid all year round. It works excellent on bugs. I think better than anything else.

Rain-X De-Icer works year-round, but it is not as good at washing away bug guts.

In Michigan, I run the Rain-X bug formula in the summer, fall I'll toss in Rain-X 2in1 (if I have some), and in the winter, I need the DeIcer/SubZero version.

IF you happen to visit Canada, swing by a WalMart or auto parts store. The Rain-X de-icer is a bit stronger. It won't freeze down to -40 Celcius!

If the battery tests good, you're not getting a new battery. Subaru's have weak and undersized batteries from the factory.

If your car eventually starts, you're not getting a new battery. If your vehicle has to be towed in by roadside with a stone dead battery, then you might be getting a new battery.

Issues with the battery are well documented:

https://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/battery-alternator-issue-only-32k-266413.html?t=266413

The simple answer is NO.

It uses a different harness and I believe a different vendor. One radio is Fujitsu and I forget who makes the other.

Most extended warranties will cost more than you recover.

 

It's insurance. It's better to self-insure where the event will not cripple you.

BUY the extended warranty:

1. One major repair will cost more than for the warranty costs you. Parts are expensive. Labor is BRUTAL. Free loaner cars help as well when parts are back-ordered.
   
2. If any of these items fail, you'll be out a small fortune: eyesight, infotainment, LED/HID headlights or tire pressure sensors
   
3. A warranty will dramatically increase the amount you can sell your car for AND the speed at which it will sell
   
4. Subaru will refund part of the warranty price at any time if you're unhappy
   

***NEVER*** buy the extended warranty from your dealer when you purchase the car. They get you for least 30-50% over the market rate. Shop around, call other dealers, and see what you can do.

I purchased my extended warranty over the phone from Jaime McGuinness at Planet Subaru. I heard on this forum that Planet is great to deal with for parts and warranties. Jaime took the time to explain the different levels of coverage and was EXCEPTIONAL. He saved me a small fortune.

I have a 2016 and have multiple things that bug me about this car:

 

The infotainment system worked perfectly fine when I bought it, was the best one I'd ever used. Now nothing works fully.

 

I had the head unit replaced under warranty. Problem-free every since.

 

Performance: The handling is good for a semi-heavy car. It's no ATS-V or 3-series, but it's comfortable and I don't feel scared hustling it around a country road. I haven't really pushed the engine, since I'm still doing the break-in miles, but it feels strong enough for normal duty. The brakes also seem fine, although it's been a while (uh, maybe never) since I have owned a car with this much mass, and it doesn't stop as fast as some of my lighter cars.

 

Well stated and accurate. I wish Subaru would come out with an XT with sport suspension. It could potentially be a BMW killer.

 

Not a big issue to me as its on a three year lease.

You're leasing a Subaru!? Aren't the lease rates terrible?

Hi everyone! I have a 2017 Lincoln MKZ that comes off lease in about 9 months. The 2020 Legacy is my front-runner to replace it.

 

Two turn offs:

 

1. Start/Stop. Intrusive. I hated it. It can only be turned off by going into the vehicle settings button, scrolling down, and flicking the switch. IT TURNS BACK ON WHEN YOU RESTART THE CAR. This looks like something that can be changed with a software update if enough people complain about it, but in this regard I think Subaru will ignore the will of its customers. I would complain less if the specific control to turn off stop/start could be placed on the first screen of the infotainment menu (maybe this IS possible, but I don't think so).

 

2. Accessing the USB ports below the infotainment screen is extremely difficult. I tried plugging in a small USB drive (with my music) and a cable into the two ports, and the opening is very small and awkwardly shaped. I could NOT fit my hand in there. I'm not overstating this point.

 

I played a lot with the adaptive cruise and lane centering during my test drive. They worked superbly. There is an awesome vehicle setting that allows you to tune the aggressiveness by which the adaptive cruise reverts to its saved speed after slowing down. With the turbo engine, I think this will be fantastic. When you use the lane centering, there are a lot of indicator lights and beeps inside the cockpit that I will need to become familiar with.

 

The feature that scans the driver's face and remembers that driver's preferred vehicle settings is very cool but I didn't have a chance to test it.

 

The mileage during my test drive seemed to well exceed the EPA estimate. I reset the MPG calculator while I was on the freeway. Drove it for about 10-15 minutes (around 70MPH?); when I left the freeway the calculated MPG was around 40MPG. Is this consistent with anyone's experience, or does the car tend to overstate one's mileage?

1. The Lane Keep Assist warnings can be turned down or off. This will make the Subaru system operate exactly like Ford Lane Centering.
   
2. Stop/Start can be turned off. Your Lincoln probably has it and you disabled it.
   
3. You can easily meet the stated highway MPG, and sometimes exceed it if you keep the car between 62-67 and limit excess weight. Going 70+ drops your fuel economy significantly in most vehicles.
   
4. You can buy a short USB extension cable on Amazon.
   

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Linked are the Subaru Towing Instructions.

Your vehicle MUST be flatbed towed or if you're desperate, the driver needs to bring a dolly

Interesting you find the H6 to be smoother. I have the opposite opinion comparing my Ascent to my 2013 Legacy 3.6R. I find the Ascent to be smoother and more responsive.

 

In both cars; nothing really happens when you stomp on the gas. The Ascent and Legacy seem to react faster if you just step onto the throttle and press down as opposed to stomping.

You're comparing apples to oranges.

2013 Legacy is a different generation I haven't driven.

The 2019 H4 Ascent weighs 4,430

The 2019 H6 Legacy weights 3,455

A vehicle that's lower to the ground and 1000lbs lighter will handle differently.

I'm debating the 2020 at this time.

Just like you, currently have a 2016.

Curious about your thoughts on:

- Infotainment (Looks like a hassle to do simple things, bigger screen=even more sun glare?)

- Front looking camera (can it be used at any speed, is it useful?)

- Stop/Start (I already don't care for this)

- Facial recognition (useful?)

• Facial recognition isn't iPhone responsive but worked respectably in the demo vehicle.
  
• Any screen will have glare. A bigger screen will usually have more glare. Tesla, Toyota (in the Prius Prime), and other manufacturers haven't had massive problems with similar systems.
  
• The front camera is AMAZING for parking. I've used one on a Ford Explorer for years. You'll use it often if you live in the burbs. You everyone should know that unless the front camera has an integrated windshield washer sprayer, it will likely be useless during the winter.
  
  
• I hate Start/Stop and have disabled it in every rental car I've had with it.
  

Did you feel the car was quieter compared to previous gen?

I was too excited to notice.

They're asking $31,300 for it...I'd be willing to offer $30k tops, as it's been sitting in their showroom for at least 6 months and new ones starting to come in. Seems like a solid car overall.

You're getting taken for a ride. That car is going down in value by the day. Financing will also be different since it's not the current model year.

Consider asking the dealer to match these prices.

Legacy H6 Package 21 -- Base Model -- $26,391

Legacy H6 Package 24 -- With options -- $28,652

Package 24 is the only option package available for an H6 and includes:

Moonroof + Navigation System + Reverse Automatic braking + High Beam Assist + LED Steering Responsive Headlights

Living in PA get your delf a set of good snow tires..( Blizzak) or Equivalent and you'll be flying past all those Hondas..

 

I agree. The factory all-season tires are useless in snow.

Upgrade to better all-season tires or a set of winter tires.

I'd be interested to see how the turbo 2020 legacy drives vs the H6 2019. Or vs the CVT WRX.

Would you like more power? Then a turbo is for you!

Previous generation:

• I find the H6 overall feels smoother and more capable
  
• The smoothness is even more pronounced when using Eyesight
  
• On the freeway, if you stomp the accelerator in an H4 over 55mph, you get very little action. Doing the same in an H6 delivers some real power and passing ability.
  

New generation:

• Over 35mph I feel like I have noticeably more power in the turbo model.
  
• Over 55 I like you have a little additional power, but it's not as noticeable as the H6.
  

Good luck finding a dealer who will let you demo a WRX.

I own a 2016 and drove a 2020 last week.

My opinion:

-- If you don't care about options, buy a 2019.

-- If you're buying the car loaded with every option, buy a 2020.

If I was in your position, I'd buy a 2020.

I assume that you have long legs and that's the issue. I'm the other way around - short legs and long back (4" longer back than average), and for me the Outback I have give me sufficient headroom.

 

 

The seats do have airbags so if you plan to work on the mounts then you have to be careful.

ehsnils is correct. Unless your pants have a 34in or greater inseam (leg length), then a seat extender probably won't help you.

To comment on the headroom, the outback has 1/2 an inch more headroom, both with and without a sunroof.