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    What to do? Broken timing belt 05 Outback XT AT

    in Third Generation Subaru Outback (2004 – 2009)

    What to do? Broken timing belt 05 Outback XT AT

    in Third Generation Subaru Outback (2004 – 2009)

    Posted

    I won't take them until next week. I'll be sure to ask him

     

    Anything else I should do to the short block while it's on the engine stand? TGV deletes, oil pan, pickups?

     

    Other cylinders, I don't know if they'll show up.

     

    https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipNcyH96ENHsHefVJ5t5u0g9t6bjq4WGNWmvZFDk

     

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    What to do? Broken timing belt 05 Outback XT AT

    in Third Generation Subaru Outback (2004 – 2009)

    Posted · Edited by vanman
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    Finally got the heads off. I found a machine shop in OKC that would do them for $400 for the pair plus parts. It'll probably end up being about the same but they come recommended by a Subaru performance shop.

     

    I tried to submit some pictures but I didn't have a security token or something like that. I didn't see anything in #1 that looked any different than the other 3.

    What to do? Broken timing belt 05 Outback XT AT

    in Third Generation Subaru Outback (2004 – 2009)

    Posted

    Here is my leakdown test results. How let me ask if I did this correctly since I've never done one before. I set the compressor to 100 PSI. Hooked up the leakdown tester and set to 0% leakage on the right gauge. The left gauge is showing about 27 psi. Connect tester to cylinder already set to TDC, Read tester and listen for leaks. The firing order is 1 (PF), 3 (PR), 2 (DF), 4 (DR).

     

    cylinder 1 - 14-22% air coming out of adjacent cylinder. plugged cylinder and air coming out of intake.

     

    cylinder 3 - 9-10% air coming out of oil filler

     

    cylinder 2 - 7-8% air coming out of oil filler

     

    cylinder 4 - 6-7% air coming out of oil filler.

    What to do? Broken timing belt 05 Outback XT AT

    in Third Generation Subaru Outback (2004 – 2009)

    Posted

    I got the new timing belt on and buttoned everything back up. I didn't do any further compression test because of the location of the spark plugs. It starts up but it sounds like putt, putt, putt and only feels about half as strong as it use to.

     

    I called a place that is out of state that does a fair amount of Subaru's and they said, at a minimum a head job which would cost $3000. They also said to replace with an EJ20 it would be $3800.

     

    I found a place in Long Beach CA the would do the swap for $1900 (engine and labor). And they said that they've done a fair number of them with no CEL.

     

    I called another JDM motor place and aked them what was involved. He said I lonely had to exchange the intake and exhaust manifolds and the crank sprocket.

     

    I've found on this forum that one person just exchanged the intake and extended the O2 sensor on the exhaust?

     

    Any ideal what is really involved? I've also read somewhere the right cam sprocket needs to be changed? I know you can use the USDM ECU but not run the exhaust AVCS or add some wire and run it or use the JDM ECU. Again, we just want this car running with a minimum of costs.

     

    Again, thanks in advanced.

    What to do? Broken timing belt 05 Outback XT AT

    in Third Generation Subaru Outback (2004 – 2009)

    Posted

    Let me preface this by saying I have no experience in working with engines although I did change the turbo to a BNR 16 4 years ago and no issues. 175000 miles.

     

    It turns out one of the idlers seized and stripped the timing belt at the crank. I put a new timing belt and idler on and turn the engine over by hand. I don't feel or hear any compression (like you might pulling on a mower), so I'm not very optimistic. Before, I go to the trouble of bolting everything back together to see if it'll start, I may just try to do a compression test on it. But then again, what's easier a compression test where I may have to lift the engine or bolting everything back on?

     

    Assuming the engine is shot, what is my best choices?

     

    Scrap the car (I just put new ((Cheap)) tires on it, 4 year old BNR 16, I believe Invidia downpipe and whatever the next section is call. Some sway bar but I can't remember what. It needs a new wheel bearing in the back).

     

    Have somebody install a used or rebuilt engine. I don't think I can do it but I'm willing to try if it's not too bad. My mechanic (who's not a Subaru specialist) told me it would be about $1000 labor.

     

    If used EJ20 or EJ25?

     

    It's my son car. He doesn't have a whole lot of money. He can drive my old CRV until a decision is made but he'll have to get his own car at some point.

     

    Thanks in advance.

     

    Van

    Cryotune performance review

    in Mountain West

    Posted

    Dave has done a great job with my tune. Initially, he was able to detect that i forgot the restrictor pill when i installed the turbo. Then he was able to determine that i had the wrong gap in my spark plugs ( used the the -11 plugs). Six revisions so far and everything is running great. I would highly recommend. I don't think you can get a better tune in person or on a dyno.

    Spark Plug Install Instructions

    in Walkthroughs :: Basic Operation & Maintenance

    Posted

    This is a little different approach. I blew a turbo and was replacing with a BNR 16g but before before so, I wanted to do a compression test. Rather than doing the change from above, we did the change from below but there is still very little room. We ended up uping the car up on jack putting a hoist on the engine after the intercooler was removed. Removed one bolt of the dog bone thing up on top of the engine. Removed the 2 bolts for the engine on one side and slowly let the engine down about 2 inches. From there the coils are nearly exposed and you just take them out and do your compression test. Then raise the engine back up bolt it up and do the other side. It still took 4 hours the first time but that was only because we were figuring it out.

     

    As it turns out, after everything is put back together (including turbo. dp, up), my etuner notes that there is knocking at mid pull and questions the spark plugs I replaced. There were the infamous NGK -11. I did not regap them to 0.030. So we ended up doing it again 2 weeks after the first time. It still took 1.5 hours but I rather work in a space that I can get into rather than a small space where where I frustration levels would probably blow a head gasket on me. Hat off to those who can do it. Just another perspective. And don't forget to check the gap but only lightly.

     

    Is the OBXT any different than the LGT. Sure looked like a lot more space on the video of the rear diver side. Maybe just my imagination and dreading trying to get that coil pack out.

    Wheel Bearings - OEM or After market?

    in Fourth Generation Legacy (2005 - 2009)

    Posted

    I changed the driver side rear wheel bearing last week. Not too bad to do. Here is a link to a You Tube video for a legacy.

     

    The only comment I have with the video is, don't use the hammer. It will take forever. I used the M8 bolt holes to take the rotor off and a puller to pull the bearing off.

     

    I think the bearing is symmetrical and there is no flatter side.

     

    I went with a Moog because it was available local and had a lifetime warranty. $95

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