jazzymt

according to the http://media.subaru.com site, the new B9 is getting an aux-in as well as XM. The Legacy, outback, and Tribeca are getting XM pre-wired and the Forester and Impresa are getting sirus pre-wired.

The B9 with DVD option already had an Aux-in. Interesting that they specifically mention it for the B9 and do not on the other vehicles...now I'm beginning to think other models probably will not have one. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Jazzy,

Do you have insider confirmation that the '07s have AUX-IN? I know they're adding satellite radio (both XM & Sirius), so it would make sense to add the AUX-IN since you have to change radios anyway.

When are the '07s coming anyhow? Are they coming out in the fall, as would be most typical, or is there something about the '07s that's triggering an early launch?

Uh, no. No insider information for me. I just read the rumors and anouncements on this forum and you're right, I haven't seen any official press releases mentioning an aux input specifically, but since the XM/Sirius rumor turned out to be true, I assume that one probably is too. It might not be...time will tell.

I have the basic kit already installed in my 2005 Legacy GT. It works fine but I am getting an annoying "whistling" feedback sound which increases with acceleration. What can I do to eliminate this noise?

You're experiencing ground loop noise. You need a GLI.

 

Crutchfield sells them:

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-96BC94Qyipn/cgi-bin/prodgroup.asp?g=181150&est=&search=ground+loop

 

..and I also sell the RCA PAC GLI (with cheaper & faster shipping):

http://www.jazzyengineering.com/product_info.php?products_id=29&osCsid=ceea2b6df6ea5b8495fe79f181b50daf

 

You can also probably pick one up at Walmart or Radio Shack.

I would expect the cost to be $150-$250 when done...probably closer to the $250 than the $150, but that's just a guess. I understand that there are several people that the cost would not be justified (like me) over the CD version, but I don't see any way to get the cost much lower than that.

 

As far as the repeat, yea, it resets every time you turn your car off. Since I dont' listen to other CD's (at least, not nearly as often as XM) and I got tired of it changing when I didn't want it to, I just ejected all but the silent CD. Then it repeats indefinitely.

I think I speak for many of us when I say that I would gladly pay for the no-CD version, even after purchasing the first iteration of this board. Perhaps a poll would give you a more definate answer?

A poll is unnecessary. This reminder works. I forget that some people may want to "upgrade." I'll keep at it then.

This weekend I made new instructions for the WRX/Impreza/Outback Sport and changed the Legacy/Outback instructions to reflect that they are specific to those vehicles.

Legacy/Outback Instructions

http://www.jazzyengineering.com/Installation_Manual_1-2.pdf

WRX/Impreza/Outback Sport Instructions

http://www.jazzyengineering.com/Installation_Manual_2-0.pdf

 

"Sales" have been pretty slow the last 2-3 weeks. With the '07 models coming out with aux-ins built in and current interest waining, I'm not sure if the no-CD version is worth developing anymore. I'm not ruling it out yet, but I'm definitely reconsidering. If I do drop work on that, I'm probably going to focus on an HVAC controls replacement instead.

Now, I did notice that neither of these cables would go all the way into the jazzy board and click like I assumed it would. Should I be able to push the 3.5mm all the way in and have it click?

Yes, it should click. The plug should go all the way into the jack so that the seat of the plug is flush with the jack...you shouldn't be able to see any of the plug itself when it's fully inserted.

 

The jack is very sturdy, but if you happen to break it while trying to seat the plug fully I'll send you a new one, so don't worry about being firm I think this is likely the source of your problems now (not being fully inserted).

Mkay, let me see if I understand this correctly. Your current setup looks like this:

 

<SIRIUS (RCA)> - <(RCA) Y-CABLE (3.5mm)> - <(3.5mm) Aux-in Board>

 

Right? So, if you plug only the red RCA of the Y-cable into your Sirius unit, do you get sound out of all your speakers? If so, either your Y-cable isn't fully plugged into the aux-in board (likely), or it's a mono cable (possible), or it's a defective cable (unlikely).

 

If that doesn't accurately describe your situation, correct me / explain some more and I'll offer a different hypothesis.

hey jazzy, I was trying to make a backup copy of the silent cd and twice I got buffer underrun errors. Here's the error message from the 2nd attempt: Write error at 63:42.63 Buffer underrun (code 030C09). What gives?

I'm not sure why it's freakin out, but you don't need a backup. It's fairly easy to make your own silent cd. I posted a walkthru here:

 

http://legacygt.com/forums/showpost.php?p=379369&postcount=381

I've also reconsidered the price for the RCA GLI. I know it's not the ideal setup since it's not 3.5mm, so I lowered it to $15. Still free shipping over $75...for now Pro-kit price is now $80 shipped.

Hrm...I just realized I somehow forgot to mention this, but orders over $75 on my website also get free shipping. So, you save $5.

i'll apologize in advance if this is covered in one of the previous 24 pages of this thread.... For the GLI with the RCA plugs, referring to the 2 brown wires, "Connect the brown wires to ground only if there is no sound out of the amplifier. Connect them both to the source chassis case."

 

In your or anyone else's experience, do we need to use the brown wires? This will probably help me determine where to place the GLI and also what patchcords and lengths to use.

No, you don't need to connect them to anything. PAC provides them because old studio audio equipment needed a reference ground or it would freak out. You can just tape them up or cut them off.

Thanks also for all the white tater tots.

You had me really confused for a second there Yea, my dogs love eating those when I'm not looking too. They're a bit bland for my taste.

 

And thanks for being the site guinie pig...glad you got what you ordered

How about a "pro kit" package but without the board. I bought the board awhile ago and would just need the wires & GLI filter. I know you can add the parts manually.. just trying to be lazy here.

Um, just buy a standard kit and put in the order notes that you want the pro kits parts w/o the board (same price).

 

If anyone really doesn't want to use the website that I worked so hard to create, but wants a custom order, just PM me what you want with your email address and I'll send you a paypal invoice.

 

FWIW, the website isn't sitting unprotected on a home server or anything, it's professionally hosted at an ISP with good firewalls, secure databases and that whole bit. I didn't bother with SSL because no monitary information is transmitted thru my site, it's all through paypal's secure servers, but I suppose I could get one if that would ease tensions about using it...

I updated the first post to include the "Pro" kit I was planning to add earlier since people seem reluctant to use the website. I'll probably leave those up indefinitely now, but the website does work if you want a different combination of options than those listed there.

 

Also, if any of you feel like posting reviews of the board on there, go right ahead. I know most everyone's comments have been lost in this 47 page thread now and it wouldn't hurt to have them reposted where someone can find them.

Is there a reason this thread has never been made a sticky thread? The most viewed and replied thread in the Interior/Audio section.

It's getting pretty huge. The stickied "Official (color) legacy photo" threads and the "thread that never ends" in off-topic are bigger, so it's the biggest, on-topic, non-stickied thread on the forum

 

Still, to sticky this thread would be a sort of endorsement for a product by Tide or the site moderators...something that's not only unnecessary, but probably unfair. I don't have a company or anything (yet anyway), but stickying this would be like stickying a vendor's thread...well...I guess there is one or two on the Accessport actually, but I don't consider this hack nearly up to the level of engineering and quality that the Accessport brings to the Subaru community. To compare it with a more related product, I think the same goes with JL's cleansweep...and stickying this and not that thread would be weird at best. That's my opinion anyway.

 

Besides, I think the 700 posts and 35,000 views by members is endorsement enough It's managed to stay in the first page pretty consistently for the last 4 months or so with your help anyway. Thanks for the support and continuing good reviews everyone.

 

As a minor update, I finally purchased a bench radio and it will be in my hands soon. I've also talked my way into a transfer inside my company and will be getting formal training on electronics and PLC's in the future which might change the course of things to come.

i was about to order the board and GLI from the website. Wanted to make sure I understood the patch cords needed if I didn't want to use a splitter/adapter.

 

ipod-like device -> mini-stereo plug (male) to rca (female) patch cord -> GLI -> rca (female) to mini-stereo plug (male) patch cord -> jazzy board.

 

is that right?

Uh...I may have my RCA male/female terms mismatched, but that's not quite-> the GLI's corded leads, what I think are male plugs, are the input, and the other side (output) are female jacks, so you need an adapter:

 

Audio device -> (optional) 6' mini-stereo extension cable -> mini-stereo to RCA adapter plug -> GLI -> 6' RCA to mini-stereo cable -> jazzy board

 

The extension cable is optional because if you're using something that locates your line out jack in the cubby or out of the way (like this), you can plug the mini-stereo to RCA adapter plug directly into that, but if you want a smaller cleaner cable to route somewhere around your dash, the extension cable will allow you to hide the adapter plug inside the dash (or under the console).

How many have you sold already? and how many to people not on this site?

Well, really, I've only sold thru this site up until now, so everyone has been "on this site." Tide has been generous enough to allow me to make a bit of a base of operations of this thread. (Speaking of which, I'm gunna donate to that dude again right now for making and hosting such a great site.) I've also noticed that many people who have bought a board posted first on this thread, so there's no telling how many of them were simply drawn here by google. If you google "aux in subaru", a link to this thread comes up as #1, so I'm sure that helps.

 

If I can get permission to post on Nasioc, that will surely change, although they aren't suck with their stereo like we are and they have a lot of catching up to do. There's about 275 successful installs so far, and except for the one guy that tried it on his WRX, they've all been on Legacys and Outbacks. Thanks to everyone else for making this project a success! I can assure you, I enjoy using this little device as much as everyone else and am grateful for centerpunch's initial research on this idea. I certainly never expected to build so many of them but, I'm already about due to order another batch of IC's.

Well, the site is up and running. I fixed as many quirks and bugs as I could find, but don't be suprised if you find a broken link. It is fully functional for ordering (yup, I even tested it) and the GLI's are supposed to arrive tomorrow. I'm going to allow purchases of backordered products for now so that you can put in complete orders even though I don't currently have GLI's in hand.

 

Obviously it needs some more "polishing" and filling out the details. I need to bring a lot of info from this thread over and integrate it into the site eventually, but it will get the job done for now.

 

I'm also going to leave up the links in the first post of this thread in case Murphy attacks, but here it is: http://www.jazzyengineering.com

 

Feedback and requests/updates/suggestions are also welcome, but rather than clutter up this thread with that, please PM or email me...or you can use the contact form on the website. Thanks

what year was that radio?

It's from a 2005 WRX STI, but I think it's the same radio in limited Outback Sport's and Imprezas (05/06). I don't know if it's been around longer than that.

Yes, the smoky piece. I think I am going to just peel it off...

Oh that! Oh yea, I just ripped that off. The resulting gap is a great place to route the audio cable too.

I'm in the middle of the install and I am pulling off the heat sink. Trouble is, there is some black adhesive strip that prevents me from doing so. Anyone have the same issue? It's getting and this is stressing me out. Should I pull off the adhesive?

 

Thanks!

I wouldn't worry about the black tape, you can probably pull it off. Just make sure you don't pull anything else off in the process (like, if it's holding onto a delicate ribbon cable). I don't know if anyone else has run into tape holding this on though...I did not.

I went to your website. Cool! One small request - please add cable lengths to your descriptions.

Good call. Like I said, it's still under construction

 

As far as more products...maybe... hehe... This is still kind of a test effort. I'm not sure how deep in I want to get before I can determine if I'm headed in the right direction. I think to go any further, I'm going to need to actually start a company, get a license, etc... and then I can become a distributor for some of these places instead of buying them retail and reselling them.

 

Taxes, fees, blah...that does not sound like much fun, but I suppose it might just be a path to something bigger and better, so we'll see. For now, I'm still trying not to get in too deep.

I ordered a PAC SNI-1/3.5 from Crutchfield on Monday and I just got an email today that it shipped! That's not bad!

Once I canceled my order, it went back to "In Stock" I have a feeling I probably forced them to stock more than they normally would, so they should have them for awhile.

Well, guess what...this mod also works in the WRX 6CD radio. The one marked P-133 on the front, which is a Matsushita model# 86201FE210, Ref.# CQ-EF6360A.

 

A WRX STI owner was kind enough to try it out and take some pictures for me. I don't know what other radios this might also work in anymore, but I'm remaning reserved for the moment that this is the only one. Some install pictures are attached...as you can see, it's almost exactly the same as our Legacy/Outback radios.

 

Also, I've got a website up and functioning, but if you know where it is (i'm not telling yet, but most could probably figure it out) please don't place any orders on it yet. I haven't finished setting everything up and haven't tested it at all. I will probably get it completed this weekend in time for when the GLI's show up Monday. This will help alleviate the "kit" issue and you can just order what you want depending on what your setup requires.