michelino1968

(except wagons but none here

:)...I know I know...mine ist SSM one, the whitey in the first foto is off-thread here...and so is the blackie in the background of the other one

I had to search through a ton of plates on Ebay to find one I really liked and definitely looked European. I made sure it was a front plate as well. It is pretty cool that the numbers tell you where it is from. Originally I put it on my Mini Cooper S, then my Jeep Wrangler, and now on the Outback. Cool thing is my family is German, so it kinda fits.

In Germany the first part of the plate indicates the city (Wü=Würzburg, or e.g. M=Munich, B=Berlin, F=Frankfurt etc.).

The major cities have 1 letter, medium-size cities have 2 letters, small urban areas 3.

The rest is a combination of letters and numbers, similar to the US.

The stickers - aside the city code - indicate the technical inspection date (rear plate) and the emission control date (front plate).

As long as You stay in the same city You can keep the plates from one car to the other.

When You move to another city You need new plates and - invalidating/ removing the 2 stickers from the old ones - You can also keep them as a "souvenir".

I still have mine infact...

I'm in Shawnee and work in KCK. Haven't seen your car running around.

...hmmm, Würzburg plates...

Nice Frankonian city with good wine and food, plus nice hills around for biking etc.

Brings back memories, we often went there during a 3 month stay in Hammelburg in 1990.

I read through these 6 pages and went "wow"....no such things happening over here.

Had only 1 scene happen back around 09/2010, a guy in a '08 Legacy sedan gave me a thumbs up after he rolled some 20 km behind/aside me on the highway to get a good glimpse...ah and a girl with a WRX I happen to encounter now and then going to the office - we flash our lights to say HI...but that's all.

I also stopped waving to other Subaru/Legacy/Outback drivers...they usually don't even notice and/or don't wave back anyway.

Some even looked as if I wanted to harrass them

Being this a "strange" car anyway, what happens usually is getting asked for a comment/opinion when people discover which car I drive.

I have always been hesitant to plastidip my grill. The black on grey just doesn't quite do it for me.

Neither am I a fan of black plastidip - but You know, they also make many other plain colors, as well as metallic finishes and others.

E.g. I bought transparent a while ago to cover my lower bumper edges, yet maintaing the original SSM color.

Plus, the best thing about it is: if You mess something up, You just peel it away and re-start. Only bad thing is it's rather costy...so You better not mess up/ re-do things too many times

I also got the official price from my dealership - the full 2010 headlamp unit incl. HID's + auto-levelling unit is Euro 1101,73 incl. italian VAT.

And that's PER PIECE (right or left side) => Full swap is Euro 2203,46 = approx. USD 2860,-

I contacted a German dealer directly...they couldn't give me an exact price because the first 2013 facelifts will arrive on their lot around may/june, so they don't have any VIN number to choose the right version from....and I don't have one either obviously.

The approximate price idea they gave me was Euro 900,- incl. VAT (full headlight incl. HID unit)....and that's PER PIECE => full swap is Euro 1800,- :eek:

My italian dealership didn't yet react...the guy from the spare parts department is away for some tech lessons...."patience my young padawan"

Does any1 know how I can get my hands on that cover plate for the headlamp washer. I suddenly realise my RHS one is missing!!

It's a regular spare part in countries where Legacies come stock with HID's.

I don't know about Yours, if it did just get them through Your dealership (they come unpainted).

If not, You will have to check in the country/ with the supplier You got them from.

@Higuma - if You weren't on a LHD vehicle I'd ask if maybe You had intentions in selling me Your car Very nice, indeed !!

Ciao, all the best.

@magopra + all: I've realized I made a mistake...the link I put in post #156 is actually the accessory catalogue for the 2013 version....my wrong, sorry.

So all this stuff mounts on the 2013 EDM version (and NOT the 2010-2012).

were you able to find the price on them?

I was out on a business trip these days...I'll call my italian dealership today for a price for the italian version (2010 in chrome + HID's).

Plus I'll ask a German friend to do so for the German version (2012 facelift in chrome and in blacked-out + HID's).

As soon as I have all the prices I'll post them here.

...because posts 326 and 327 are less credible?

 

 

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No, in fact....but 309 < 326/327

Plus I live here....

In sure it's been discussed but many European cars will have its optics set to the left and not the right...possibly blinding oncomming traffic.(no more than Chevy cobalts with hid)

Please refer to my post #309.

@Higuma:

I'm sooooooo jealous !!! DIT engine (what I would like to have), and now a set of veeeery nice wheels....compliments, what a nice car !! :wub:

I now found out that in Germany they already sell the 2013 facelift WITH HID's.

Thanks to Brainchild Customs we know the 2013's are a direct swap to 2010's, therefore You have 2 more options to choose

the only laws I actually have to follow are the inspection regulations. When it comes to modification of my vehicle i.e tuning, I do not have to follow Italian laws. In the end, majority of us leave this duty station and return home stateside. It's the same thing with window tinting. I do not have to follow Italian tinting laws. I can have my vehicle tinted to USDM Specs and I "WILL NOT" get in trouble with the local Italian laws.

OK, good. In fact I didn't say "don't do it" I just wanted to suggest to check all details before going ahead and making changes that would later have put You in trouble.

If You want I can check with my dealership how much a full lamp + HID's would cost.

If you're in Italy sure, but the majority of the people on this forum are talking about USDM cars and none of that applies to us. 13FLGT's location might say Italy, but he's got a USDM car and I'm pretty sure if they let him bring a USDM car over, then it only has to follow USDM regulations. The military can get away with things like that.

Sure, European laws apply to people living here...in fact the US laws are much less stringent regarding tuning than they are here.

13LGT actually IS in Italy (serving the US Military), that's why I pointed out what our laws over here are like.

I wouldn't be so sure about the fact that a military "can get away with things like that" - I'm an ex-AF officer - as long as he's here he will probably have to stick to a certain amount of local laws, too.

In the end it's obviously up to everybody to check for himself what he can/wants to do, gathering the necessary information BEFORE going ahead with modifications.

I don't see why he'd have to do the whole washer/bumper swap unless the washer is actually built into the headlight...

Because if he does only change the lamp+HID unit the car becomes "illegal road condition" all around Europe, means:

- You lose insurance coverage, in case You are involved in an accident You will be held responsible privately and pay all damage (Yours if You didn't cause the accident, Yours + third party if instead You did, even partially)

- in a police control they will impound the vehicle, You go home by foot/train and then have 30 days to re-condition the car and re-pass official technical inspection

- same for a revision (every 3 years), You don't pass and have 30 days to re-present Your car in legal road condition

Not really a joke to play around with imho...just saying.

I believe they were $1700 or so when I saw them on that site. It has been mentioned before.

Over here the KW V3 rate EURO 1915,- = USD 2500,- :eek: excl. installation.

the question now is, will it work in my car bahahaha! I kind of like the idea of the headlights partially blacked-out like the JDM design. I wonder how much it will cost order it.

A part the dimensional question, keep in mind that ALL Euro models have HID's plus washer units in the bumper (legally compulsory), while USDM has Halogen bulbs without washer unit.

Lamp washing works for some 1-2 seconds while You tear the left stick at the driving wheel for windscreen washing, but I don't know if the control unit is the same as without HID washing units.

So - even in case dimensions were compatibile - You still would have to go for a rather large swap (full lamp housings + HIDs, new bumper, washer units + evtl. control unit/s).

And that would surely be pricey, I suppose.

...second PS: In Germany they also sold a version with partially blacked-out sections, see the foto.

So YES there are also partially blacked-out versions for RHD.

JDM headlight (Right-Hand Drive) would be illegal here in the US because of how they are aimed (for approaching traffic on the right).

 

Other than that, fitment should be identical, but JDM lights were blacked out and ours were all chrome, gobs of it....

errr....Japan = UK => LHD.

If You would want to install a JDM-looking headlight that's useable on RHD traffic You would need to opt for "EDM" = Euro-version. Just my 2cent.

PS: The standard "EURO-version" is all chrome incl. the side-markers (USDM are orange). The only orange is the "winker" , or indicator if You like, which is an orange bulb behind a clear, refracted glass => what we call "fried eggs look"

At first I would have tendend towards the bigger JDM lip, Subaru product code E2410AJ000NN (Euro 341,- unpainted ). In our brochures it's always shown colour-matched to the car, and so far I never saw one, neither physically nor installed.

After seeing the fotos of the 2 lip types installed, I definitely like the smaller lip.

The bigger one really needs the colour match to be "digestable", black plastic on a lighter-coloured car is a NO-NO IMHO.