rallispec

the 2.5GT puts out 250hp / 250ft/lbs similar 0-60 specs.

offered in a standard GT model with heated cloth seats, 6 disc changer, and minor other enhancments --also offered in a 'Limited' GT model which adds heated leather power seats, and a moonroof.

the MacIntosh stereo is not available in the U.S.

price of a non-limited starts around $25k, limited around $28-29k.

Canada gets the same as the united states. Europe doesnt get a turbo if i am correct. (they only get the 3.0 engine)

subaru.com -- like roundboy said.

How many times can you flash the ECU? Does each time you switch maps count as one of these flashes?

each time you change the base map -- that counts as a 'flash'.. a base map reflash takes about 20 minutes to do.

a real time map does not use up your flashes. Switching real time maps takes only a few seconds.

they say 100 flashes-- however that is a very conservative estimate. STill though, 100 flashes should be way more than any normal person ever needs to use.

Ed_T

if you really want to take full advantage of the AP, i would suggest using the same base map you would normally want to drive at.

eg: use stage1 93 octane as your base map, and then switch to a stock realtime map if you need to, or just flash back to stock if you need to.

Dont worry about using up your flashes -- the car can handle more than 100 flashes easily, and even at 100 -- that will last you much longer than the life of the car under any kind of normal flashing routine.

here is my dyno running Stage1 93 octane on the version 1.01 map = the red and green lines represent stage1 base map.

the blue lines reprsent stage1 base map - stock real time map.

I was told by MachVdan (who's dyno i was on) - that the real time stock numbers were almost identical to what other stock legacies put down. - so it's a good indication of a truely stock legacy.

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how are you guys figuring out your avg MPG? Based upon the info display I'm averaging 15.9 mpg

 

i could have bought a Hummer...

holy crap man!

based on the trip computer, it usually tells me between 22 and 23mpg mostly city driving. At the pump (miles driven / gallons of gas put in) i usually find myself to be between .5 and 1 MPG lower than the display.

i've gotten as high as 28.5 on the highway with cruise set at 65.

none

i have seen no gas mileage loss running AP stage 1 93 octane.

(the first tank might go by a little quicker - but only becuase you'll be punching it out of every stoplight with a sh!t eating grin on your face becuase your car is so much faster)

I emailed Cobb on this about 3 months agao and the reply was "we're working on it". No timeline was given, and I suspect it is not a high priority for them.

 

Does anyone know how much fuel economy one gains on the WRX map?

here's what i found on nutsack: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=755467&goto=nextnewest

looks pretty ineffective based on the first hand reviews.

thanks for the encouragement! the ECU has been flashed like a mofo. took it for a spin afterwards and DAMN that just might be the best $650 I ever spent. I feel like I'm behind the wheel of a 911!

 

thanks again

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has anyone heard anything else regarding a fuel economy map or anything like that? When I know I'm going to be doing a lot of city driving I wouldn't mind a map that detunes the motor even further if it can choke an extra 5 or 10 mpg out of it. I had plans to go over to COBB and talk to them last Friday, but my boy was sick and I wanted to keep him home.

i know the idea has been presented to them and they have economy maps for the WRX. I'm sure they'll make one eventually.

in the meantime i'm not too worried about it, i've seen no drop in fuel economy with the AP installed, and I dont know if a few extra miles to the gallon is woth detuning the engine to me.

thanks rallisport

 

Please do not flash the ECU at a location where you cannot leave your car for an extended period of time in the unlikely event there is a problem.

 

after all the excitement of waiting for the AccessPort to arrive, it finally gets here and now i'm not that excited to install it anymore.

 

can someone please quell my anxiety?

you'll be fine -- even in the event that something happens mid flash, the accessport has built in safety features that prevent any damage from happening to the ECU.

I think they mainly have that printed for liability reasons.

with that said though, i would play it safe and flash it at your house or at least somewhere, where should anything happen - you have access to a phone and can call Cobb.

However, i have yet to hear anybody experience any problems. Cobb has been doing this for a while with the legacy, and even longer with the WRX. By now they have this system down pretty good and you shouldnt need to worry at all.

now get out there and flash that ecu~!

I believe it went something like this: (I don’t have the manual in front of me)

Plug in AP

Connect test wires under glove box

The turn the keys to the ON/ACC position so that things light up – but do not start the engine.

Fire up the AP, select new flash new base map.. (note – before you can load up new maps on the accessport, you will have had to flash once to your car’s ECU to marry the AP to your car)

You’ll know you did it correctly if it takes about 20 minutes to finish.

Once finished disconnect the AP and the test connectors

Then I went and loaded up the latest and greatest map off of cobb’s site ( I think they’re up to 1.2 now?) and did those steps over again to reflash the base map.

to flash to a new real time map you do not need to connect the test connectors or turn the car off. (you can flash with the engine running or completely off). Disconnecting the battery terminals will automatically reset your ECU to your base map. A real time flash should take less than 1 minute to complete.