JDMg3

Should be doing it sometime next week. I'll try to get side by side pictures of each parts.

Now I'm still trying to source a nice cheap set of wheel that I can use until I get the ones I really want.

Cool, I will look into the trailing arm bracket tomorrow to check on prices, bolts too I suppose.

bolts not needed and I think brakets are under 30$ each.

On some pictures its a little hard to make out the difference between the parts but looking directly at the parts the differences are obvious!

You got it, rear trailing arm are the same but braket are different. They hold the trailing arm closer to the body. Uca have different parts number and I am not sure about getting those aftermarket but I am pretty sure one could keep the obxt ones and simply change the bump stops for the shorter lgt

So here are the picture comparison between LGT parts and OBXT parts.

BLEU = OBXT

RED = LGT

FRONT LCA PLATE/STUD AND SPACER THAT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d191/JDMG3/OBXT%20to%20LGT%20suspension/OBXT5.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d191/JDMG3/OBXT%20to%20LGT%20suspension/LGT2.jpg

FRONT SUB FRAME SPACER THAT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED AND SHORTER LGT BOLTS NEEDED

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d191/JDMG3/OBXT%20to%20LGT%20suspension/OBXT9.jpg

STEERING JOINT IS SHORTER ON LGT

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d191/JDMG3/OBXT%20to%20LGT%20suspension/OBXT7.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d191/JDMG3/OBXT%20to%20LGT%20suspension/LGT15.jpg

TRANSMISSION SUB FRAME GOES LOWER BY 1IN APROX ON OBXT. ONLY FRONT AND REAR PARRALEL PIECES NEED TO BE CHANGED

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d191/JDMG3/OBXT%20to%20LGT%20suspension/OBXT1.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d191/JDMG3/OBXT%20to%20LGT%20suspension/LGT5.jpg

OBXT DRIVE SHAFT HAGNER BEARING SITS LOWER FROM THE LGT SO IDEALY NEEDS TO BE CHANGED. BOTH DRIVE SHAFT ARE THE SAME LENGHT.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d191/JDMG3/OBXT%20to%20LGT%20suspension/OBXT14.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d191/JDMG3/OBXT%20to%20LGT%20suspension/LGT3.jpg

SHIFTER RODS ARE LONGER ON OBXT

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d191/JDMG3/OBXT%20to%20LGT%20suspension/OBXT26.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d191/JDMG3/OBXT%20to%20LGT%20suspension/LGT13.jpg

ALL 4 REAR SUB FRAME BOLTS ARE SHORTER ON LGT, SPACER NEED TO BE REMOVED

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d191/JDMG3/OBXT%20to%20LGT%20suspension/OBXT4.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d191/JDMG3/OBXT%20to%20LGT%20suspension/LGT11.jpg

TRAILING ARM BRAKETS ARE DIFFERENT

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d191/JDMG3/OBXT%20to%20LGT%20suspension/OBXT24.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d191/JDMG3/OBXT%20to%20LGT%20suspension/LGT9.jpg

REAR UCA ARE DIFFERENT AND SO ARE THE BUMP STOPS

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d191/JDMG3/OBXT%20to%20LGT%20suspension/OBXT23.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d191/JDMG3/OBXT%20to%20LGT%20suspension/LGT6.jpg

CENTER EXAUST HEAT SHEILD IS DEEPER ON LGT SINCE EVERY THING IS CLOSER TO THE BODY (NOT THE MOST IMPORTANT)

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d191/JDMG3/OBXT%20to%20LGT%20suspension/OBXT19.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d191/JDMG3/OBXT%20to%20LGT%20suspension/LGT4.jpg

This is all you need to make the conversion and of course a set of lgt struts or coilovers

I simply cut the inner part of the plastic flare and roll/pull the fender!

Sorry Edit...

I will simply cut the inner part of the plastic flare and roll/pull the fender!

I will take picture of progress shortly!

No I have not....i've only had the car for 1 month aprox! I'll order soon since spring is around the corner but I want to get the suspension thing over with first!

I know for the wheels, that how I like it! I'll be running a little stretch, some camber and I'll do some fender work!

Here's my Old OB.....to bad it was faster than the XT:

http://www.ottawasubaru.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=31185

I really like your car! Mines Blk also and I am also going with Rotiforms but model Nue in 18x9.5 +35!

I'm also ordering 08-09 tails!

From what I can see the trailing arm mount need to be changed but not the trailing arm themselves. Same part number.

Taking out the spacers won't lower the car more but will get your control arm back to the correct angle!

I'll be needing some rear lca also if the wl camber bushing is not sufficient but I think they are over price and I'll simply end up making myself some!

Also, are we just going off of part numbers being different, or determining that geometry or other issues will be corrected? Some parts on the OB are stouter, yes? If that's the primary difference I'd just as soon leave them.

 

Right now I only have my rear spacers out, which were pulled to make room for the exhaust. I want to upgrade to the Group N trans mount, but does that mean doing the crossmember, too?

 

Meh, I wish I could get under my car more easily. (condo rules + tiny garage...)

Yes thats true right now I'am refereing mostly to part numbers although I did do this in the past on my 97 Outback so alot off stuff I know will need to be changed to get it perfect and yes it will correct the geometry. The parts are actualy not stouter on the Outback, just slightly different. Anyways that how it was on my older Outback.

Some parts like the drive shaft and exaust sheild(Not very important), rear uca, I am not sure what the difference are.

Yes the tranny cross member would need to be changed but I was thinking one could possibly make a spacer that goes between the cross member and the tranny mount. BTW the tranny mount it self is the same.

Over the weekend finaly I should have access to my buddy's lift to compare my car with a buddy's LGT.

Just out of curiosity, what is your goal by doing all of this?

The goal is to lower the Outback.....and I'm going lower than a stock GT. By lowering the outback that much, the geometry of the suspension is going to be completely off. The lca for example wont be fonctioning at the angle they are suspose to. I want to keep the geometry as close as it was intended to fonction as possible and this will keep the overall handling at its best.

Ok Good info! Thx for the input.

Bottomline is that the shifter rods are different but should still work with stock parts.

Now if you were to remove all the spacers you shifter would be centered!

I know. I have the STI SS, designed and intended for the LGT in my OBXT.

Ok so you have the whole thing with the shifter rods meant for a GT in your OB!!?

I thought you were only talking about the shift lever!

Is it well centered like stock when in neutral?

For the shifter, if you look at the picture above I am talking about number 8 and 24. They have different part number than the GT.

Yes I am pretty sure the steering joint needs to be changed for the GT part.

I went through this before, and to do it "right" you need the LGT steering universal joint, all of the LGT bolts (to use after removing the spacers), an LGT trans crossmember (just the ones perpindicular to the centerline of the car), the LGT bolts for the rear crossmember, an LGT drive shaft, and LGT upper control arms and bump stops.

 

Exhaust is the same, so no worries there.

 

I priced it out, and not including the rear upper control arms, the cost was like $1300 from the dealer.

 

Some have said that you do not need the LGT bolts, that you can simply put the spacers on the other side of the subframes and then use the stock bolts.

That is what I thought, puting the spacers on the other side of the subframe!!

Have you looked at the shifter? The part numbers are different and that makes me think that the leght is different to compensate for the fact that the tranny sits lower in the tunel.

And do you know what is different in the driveshaft exactly? I am getting contradicting info true the threads.

Heres what I found out so far....I will had the part number and picture from my car later. Now I need to source parts!!!

In this picture number 1-2 needs to be removed and number 4-6-7-29-33 need to be changed with GT parts

http://static.opposedforces.com/epc_img/366495120003.png

In this picture number 14-15-17-5 need to be change with GT parts

http://static.opposedforces.com/epc_img/366495120101.png

In this picture number 7-11-13-17-19 need to be changed to GT parts

http://static.opposedforces.com/epc_img/366495120102.png

In this picture number number 2-10 need to be changed with GT parts

http://static.opposedforces.com/epc_img/366495141002.png

In this picture number 4 need to be changed to GT part

http://static.opposedforces.com/epc_img/366495119901.png

In this picture number 1 need to be change to GT part

http://static.opposedforces.com/epc_img/366495134701.png

In this picture number 8-24 need to be change to GT parts

http://static.opposedforces.com/epc_img/366495135001.png

It seem that number 32 needs to be changed but I think it simply the hangers that need to be shorten but I am not sure!!!

http://static.opposedforces.com/epc_img/366495144005.png

In this picture number 3 seems to need to be change with GT part but may still fit.

http://static.opposedforces.com/epc_img/366495157204.png

Hi,

I am trying to gather all the info needed to swap all parts to lower my OBXT and take out all the spacers. I have done it on my Older 97 OB a couple years ago but then it was easy cause I had all the parts free from a parts car and did nt needed to really search before doing it. Now I'll need to buy the GT parts so I want to make sure I buy all I need and not parts I dont need.

So far from what I can see its way easier to do it on the newer 05+. Less parts seems to be needed to be changed.

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2012/04/11

Heres the latest.

After all the research and part number comparing and then comparing parts from a friends GT to my OB XT I finally was able to find all the parts needed for the conversion.

I was able to find a very nice fellow on Nasioc that took all the parts off is salvaged GT and shipped them to me.

Now the next picture shows ALL the parts needed to do a complete and perfect OB XT to GT conversion. Only thing not shown in the picture are the struts.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d191/JDMG3/OBXT%20to%20LGT%20suspension/IMG_6437.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d191/JDMG3/OBXT%20to%20LGT%20suspension/IMG_6438.jpg

Now I have added a few Goodies. KW V2coilovers, SpecB front top hats, Camber rear UCA and Caster front LCA WL bushings and also Leg GT rack and pinion. Eventualy 4/2 Pot Nissan aluminium brake caliper conversion. Wow I am so excited to install the parts.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d191/JDMG3/IMG_6442.jpg

Here a picture of my car. I've only purchased it 2 months ago. So far I've install front and rear Hotchkis sway Bars with Cusco front links and 08-09 rear tails. Missing a nice set of 18x9.5 now!!!!

I went from a really build STI swapped 97 Leg OB Wagon to this one. So far I love it but I will love even more once all is installed. Now I,ll have to gather more parts for the VF52 install but still debating a possible V8-9 STI swap.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d191/JDMG3/IMG_6408.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d191/JDMG3/IMG_6409.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d191/JDMG3/IMG_6414.jpg

And here it is with the wife FXT.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d191/JDMG3/IMG_6413.jpg