Radar detector in the mirror idea.

Just wanted to share some idea I have for a looong time, and I know I'm not the only one.

 

Why the hell nobody would produce radar detector build-in into the mirror?

 

Just take a standard autodimming mirror with homelink and compass, and add a radar detector to it. Like take a ciruit board out of passport 8500 and mount it vertical behind the mirror. Then display the readings through the glass, so when there is a signal it'll shine through the glass, and when detector is off - nothing will be visible, period.

 

Also, mirror is always in the perfect spot for a detector.

 

Why none of the top detector makers would come up with something like that??? Seems like couple thouthands worth of engenerring, and then you have a product that can sell for double of what passport/v1 cost (considering homelink and compass and autodimming features).

 

Then you'd just buy this thing, get rid of your cheap stock mirror and glue it in and wire it in, and voila - total stealth installation with perfect visibility.

 

Idea is so simple. Why nobody making it? Is there like legal reasons or something?

Nice idea. Probably would not even have to to glue in most cars. I believe the mirrors in Subarus are some generic ones and fit in many other cars.

 

Ideally the mirror would have all the internals and perhaps the buzzer, power on switch, but the display should be remote, like in Valentine 1.

Well to start, radar detectors are not legal in all states. think that about sums it up.

http://www.countryjoycrafts.com/350Z/escortmount.htm

what about this mounting option?

Well to start, radar detectors are not legal in all states. think that about sums it up.

 

So what. He is not saying they should be sold as OEM.

So what. He is not saying they should be sold as OEM.

 

 

uh huh. I know. why don't you guys make one then?

So what. He is not saying they should be sold as OEM.

 

 

I tink what he means is that... if you drove into a state where they are illegal you wouldn't be able to remove it without removing your rear view mirror as well.

I tink what he means is that... if you drove into a state where they are illegal you wouldn't be able to remove it without removing your rear view mirror as well.

 

Again, so what. Good luck for cops checking your mirror. You could always have spare mirror if you want to by law-obedient... swaping mirror takes few minutes.

 

Besides, f**k you Virginia and your gestapo laws.

http://www.countryjoycrafts.com/350Z/escortmount.htm

what about this mounting option?

 

thats not bad buy $40 is quite expensive for mount. but does it work with our cars?

http://www.countryjoycrafts.com/350Z/escortmount.htm

what about this mounting option?

It would be nice to have something that didn't block more of the view of the road.

Futher, being fully hidden is good for both states where they're illegal and in situations when you get pulled over

Also in states where hanging anything from your window but teh rear-view mirror is illegal

Again, so what. Good luck for cops checking your mirror. You could always have spare mirror if you want to by law-obedient... swaping mirror takes few minutes.

 

Besides, f**k you Virginia and your gestapo laws.

 

you know, that reminds me. I got stopped in DC for gunning it at a yellow light. guy let me off and warned me that it's a $500 fine to operate a vehicle in DC with a license plate cover. WTF!!!!

 

told him I'd remove it.

 

 

 

 

It's still on BTW:cool:

Well to start, radar detectors are not legal in all states. think that about sums it up.

 

Well, I'm not saying making it stock option. It's just something you buy just like any other radar detector. Yes it'll be mounted more or less permanently. But if it totally looks like a mirror - what's the risk, even in illegal states?

If I'd had an experience at producing things... like radar detectors and mirrors - I sure would.

 

As it is I wouldn't know were to start. But for Escort it would be so easy task. And they didn't come up with anything conceptually new in years...

 

uh huh. I know. why don't you guys make one then?

To make it more clear... Here, that's what it should look like. Exactly like mirror I had in Z, and have in Suby now. Made by Gentex half a mile down the road from my office (what a coincidence).

 

Just change function of those stupid "I" and "O" buttons to operate detector. Nobody ever use those buttons anyway.

 

http://www.wembleysells.com/mirrortech/453s.JPG

Vlad, if you have Gentex next to you, why do you go there and suggest the idea. It's really matter of putting a radar detector guts into the mirror. Of course, it would be crucial if they partner with a renowned detector manufactorer (Valentine1 for me), but otherwise it's non-brainer. I think it's excellent idea, and i would gladly pay $500-600 for a mirror with integrated V1.

One top of the price of the V1? They are freaking $$$ (but I own one).

Nah total $600 for mirror + V1 would be a good price.... heck, $700 for the novelty factor....

 

Anyway, I doubt it would happen but who knows...

I think we would have to donate our V1s to expirament...but yeah I would pay probably $700 just to hide the thing. Its always obstructing my view.

I know a lot of people would pay... Especially considering it's a standard mirror in many cars... Most of them would be just plag-n-play. I.e. take power connector out of old mirror put into new.

 

How would you suggest me to go to Gentex? Just ask for a CEO or something and say I have a great idea? And make them do it? If I were that kind of guy - I'd be rich already.

 

I'd think it would only work if detector manufacturer approach them... And yes, it's important for me that it's the good one: V1 or Escort. I don't really care which.

I'd love a V1 with 9500i (yes, the GPS lock-out is nice, but teh GPS speed is awesome) features or vice versa all built into a mirror along with Bel Sti driver's indetectability. I'd pay $1000 for all that.

Be careful how you approach the companies if you do it. because of some IP type stuff they get ancy when people recommend stuff.

However, i'd suspect escort/bel 9same company) would be more likely to do it than valentine simply because they;ve just been doing more intersting stuff lately (GPS, indetectablility, even those blue lights are cool if way overpriced), and they get smaller, teh V1 is huge.

 

Also, I'm not sure how universal mirros really are. I know my passat auto-dim wouldn't be able to replace the legacy's.

 

Still, get something that fits my LGT (or whatever I'm driving then) and I'll pay cahs money if it works as well as one of the better detctors on the market at the time.

Again, so what. Good luck for cops checking your mirror. You could always have spare mirror if you want to by law-obedient... swaping mirror takes few minutes.

 

Besides, f**k you Virginia and your gestapo laws.

 

That's actually a very valid concern - it's not just VA, and as enforcers get more wise to speed detections countermeasures, this becomes more and more of a concern.

 

unclemat, bro, you know how I feel about these things - you know that I'm with you on this one. As-such, please don't take it wrong when I say that you should explain your point of view to this poor fellow:

 

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3542017

 

Yes, integration is good, but sometimes, the ability to dis-integrate is also rather nice to have, too.

 

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I've expressed my thoughts on this particular kind of integration to vlad_b here:

 

http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45289

 

Would I like to see such a thing?

 

Yes. Whether I will use it or not would be irrelevant - I'm a speed-detections countermeasures hobbyist, and *any* improvements in this area is something I look forward to seeing.

 

However, I do have some rather serious doubts as to the ability of an "OEM-make," such as V1 or Escort, undertaking this project, for the reasons stated therein.

 

For a boutique maker, I would think that such an idea would definitely be possible - just be willing to pony-up the bucks.

This would be why the STI technology would be important, but also why its important to know the local law of where you are. And a detector one cannot see that isn't on is undetectable. And quite frankly, if you're running a detector (aka ON) that is detectable in a place wher eit is illegal, you don't really have a right to complain about that. (except that the law is fecking retarded)

 

Oh and his car got impounded for speeding, not for the detector.

Long time ago my dad witness an officer pulling the radar detector out of this guys car in Va. and smashing it on the ground with his foot.

 

novelty-great, but at what price.

 

regardless pretty cool idea. I wouldn't do it. and I live in md. to each his own.

 

 

That's actually a very valid concern - it's not just VA, and as enforcers get more wise to speed detections countermeasures, this becomes more and more of a concern.

 

unclemat, bro, you know how I feel about these things - you know that I'm with you on this one. As-such, please don't take it wrong when I say that you should explain your point of view to this poor fellow:

 

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3542017

 

Yes, integration is good, but sometimes, the ability to dis-integrate is also rather nice to have, too.

 

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I've expressed my thoughts on this particular kind of integration to vlad_b here:

 

http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45289

 

Would I like to see such a thing?

 

Yes. Whether I will use it or not would be irrelevant - I'm a speed-detections countermeasures hobbyist, and *any* improvements in this area is something I look forward to seeing.

 

However, I do have some rather serious doubts as to the ability of an "OEM-make," such as V1 or Escort, undertaking this project, for the reasons stated therein.

 

For a boutique maker, I would think that such an idea would definitely be possible - just be willing to pony-up the bucks.

Long time ago my dad witness an officer pulling the radar detector out of this guys car in Va. and smashing it on the ground with his foot.

 

novelty-great, but at what price.

 

regardless pretty cool idea. I wouldn't do it. and I live in md. to each his own.

Today that would be extremely illegal and the state would be forced to buy you a new one.

Really

46.2-1079

A. It shall be unlawful for any person to operate a motor vehicle on the Highways of the Commonwealth when such vehicle is equipped with any device or mechanism, passive or active, to detect or purposefully interfere with or diminish the measurement capabilities of any RADAR, LASER, or other device or mechanism employed by law-enforcement personnel to measure the speed of motor vehicles on the Highways of the Commonwealth for law-enforcement purposes. It shall be unlawful to use any such device or mechanism on any such motor vehicle on the Highways. It shall be unlawful to sell any such device or mechanism in the Commonwealth. However, provisions of this Section shall not apply to any receiver of radio waves utilized for lawful purposes to receive any signal from a frequency lawfully licensed by any State or Federal agency.

 

This Section shall not be construed to authorize the forfeiture to the Commonwealth of any such device or mechanism. Any such device or mechanism may be taken by the arresting officer if needed as evidence, and, when no longer needed, shall be returned to the person charged with a violation of this Section, or at that person's request, and his expense, mailed to an address specified by him. Any unclaimed devices may be destroyed on court order after six months have elapsed from the final date for filing an appeal.

 

Actually if he could be brought up on charges himself. Unlikely perhaps, but still.

the actual transmitter/reciever is the only part that you'd really have to put in the back of the detector, if you were good at playing w/ hardware, you could easily remove the beam device, and patch some wires back to the box... i mean it's only tx/rx stuff