vladvv Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 [new to subaru, cross posting to ultimatesubaru not sure where people are active] Hello everyone, so I just got myself a 1998 Red Legacy Wagon, in 5 speed with the 2.2L engine. P0440 error code is present. I got it for pretty cheap and knew going in that the evap system is a mess, the previous owner installed what I believe is the wrong filler neck? I have two open hoses that smell of raw gas in the wheel well. I also found an extra middle access port above the gas tank, opened that up and there are also disconnected hoses there. I'm trying to find help regarding what the system is supposed to look like. The two little hoses are super rusted out, I'm thinking of tearing them out all the way back to where ever they connect and just replacing them with rubber hose? I also saw the post where the guy replaced his with a copper tube, even though that's the older model I believe with just one hose. Anyways I took some pictures, open connections are circled in red. I'm looking for help on how I can repair the system, or what the system is supposed to look like when it's not butchered Album of pictures here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osei Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 This should help. http://static.opposedforces.com/epc_img/366494942009.png also http://www.main.experiencetherave.com/subaru_manual_scans/ O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vladvv Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 I wish I could see the system assembled instead of blown up like that... kind of hard to trace all the little hoses around gas tank... but I'll try to figure it out thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooln30 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Did you really cut that big ass hole in your car? I don't think that was nessesary at all. You could've just traced the lines and used some rubber fuel lines instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooln30 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Even if a steel line your trying to connect to with rubber is rusted as long as its not rusted through all you have to do is use a little rtv when installing the fuel line and don't over tighten the hose clamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vladvv Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 I did not cut the hole, believe it or not it was there already. Looking at the drawings I'm having a hard time figuring out where the disconnected lines on top of the fuel tank are supposed to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarmerson Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Perhaps a visit to a local yard? I know pull part gives two shits if you beat and bang. Could find a similar model and take pics etc. The only reason I look at other peoples cars is so I can see my Subie in the reflection - Carver Snell Check out 2nd Gen Legacy Enthusiast & Resource Directory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vladvv Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 I'm starting to think the disconnected hard lines on top of the tank don't matter, and they've been replaced with the rubber hoses there (hoses look pretty new, and there should not be so many damn fuel lines in the middle of fuel tank according to diagrams) If this is the case I think all I need to do is to repair the two small lines (they go up to top of fuel filler neck... to a cutoff valve?) Since my fuel filler neck does not have these two I may be getting a new one... or the valve was optional can I just connect these two lines together? Whatever I do I will try to take pictures and document everything for future people having problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osei Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 If you download the 99FSM from the link I sent, you'll have a better look. Do the 99 legacy, then engine, then fuel system. Tank starts with the 2nd pdf. O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vladvv Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 Okay so I think I found what these two pipes are - the same spot is circled in both photo and diagram (Still not sure where they go to internally) http://i.imgur.com/ztDCZtI.png And the other end of them connects to the "Shut Valve" I don't remember if I have one of those so I will check when I get a chance. http://i.imgur.com/k3Y23PO.png looking at a replacement: http://www.fillernecksupply.com/servlet/the-1009/1999-99-2000-00/Detail says "all 4 vent lines" I have no idea what those 4 vent lines are... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooln30 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 The fuel shut off valve is for when your filling your car with gas. I would think they, meaning our gens, have them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vladvv Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 http://www.subarupartsforyou.com/cp_partdetail.php?partid=22507 Hey! I think these are some of the parts that are destroyed on mine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooln30 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Damn I didn't think our cars had some many emission lines back there. Those lines go from the tank and the evap canister. Their all for venting the fuel vapors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vladvv Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 Damn I didn't think our cars had some many emission lines back there. Those lines go from the tank and the evap canister. Their all for venting the fuel vapors. Is there a diagram anywhere of which line should connect to what? Like a not to scale schematic type thing like they have for vacuum hoses and electrical? edit: found it http://i.imgur.com/saqcnu5.jpg Now I just have to figure out which two hoses are my two little rusted ones... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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