dark_thorns Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 So i know that with an open deck system motor you can't turbocharge it, but what about supercharging it? Does anyone know where i can even find a supercharger kit for it? And not one of those cheap electric superchargers either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyposeur Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 ebay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated broknindarkagain Posted August 13, 2012 I Donated Share Posted August 13, 2012 Its easier to turbo charge it... However, the idea is still the same with superchargers. Its forced induction that likes to kill these engines.....superchargers and turbos do the same thing...just in a different way -broknindarkagain My Current Project - Click Here COME AND TAKE IT "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_thorns Posted August 13, 2012 Author Share Posted August 13, 2012 I figured that a supercharger wouldn't put so much pressure on the cylinder walls like a turbo does, besides the rods and thin cylinder walls i can't see much that would give out under. And i can only find the cheap electric supercharger kits on ebay, hell even when i google it i can't even find a legit supercharger. -.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibob6 Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 If you want to supercharge your suby goto http://www.raptorsc.com.au/kits.php?id=57, or http://sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=14362, http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/superchargers-108169.html?t=108169&highlight=raptor+supercharger I'm sure there's a couple more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated broknindarkagain Posted August 13, 2012 I Donated Share Posted August 13, 2012 10psi from a turbo puts the same stress on an engine that 10psi from a super charger does....the difference is in how you get that extra psi -broknindarkagain My Current Project - Click Here COME AND TAKE IT "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_thorns Posted August 13, 2012 Author Share Posted August 13, 2012 If you want to supercharge your suby goto http://www.raptorsc.com.au/kits.php?id=57, or http://sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=14362, http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/superchargers-108169.html?t=108169&highlight=raptor+supercharger I'm sure there's a couple more... That was very helpful, thanks a lot. And i know the motors can only handle slight boost, but with a supercharger i have no need to push my motor that hard. Personally i think a turbo to be inefficient in a manual car, a supercharger would be much more effective. I'd only need to push my car to about 4-5k rpms which shouldn't be using that much boost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated broknindarkagain Posted August 13, 2012 I Donated Share Posted August 13, 2012 You have a lot to learn -broknindarkagain My Current Project - Click Here COME AND TAKE IT "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_thorns Posted August 13, 2012 Author Share Posted August 13, 2012 You have a lot to learn This i know, that's why i ask questions. =P I'm not an experienced mechanic, i don't know a whole lot about cars, but i do love to drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated broknindarkagain Posted August 13, 2012 I Donated Share Posted August 13, 2012 A super charger is just as hard on your engine as a turbo charger is...no matter what way you look at it. Do you want to do a super charger because you think its safer for the engine? Turbo will be cheaper, easier, and you will have far more support for a turbo setup -broknindarkagain My Current Project - Click Here COME AND TAKE IT "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alter_ Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 reddevil on the nasioc forums was the only supercharger setup I saw. I still think the wrx swap is the way to go. You need a bunch of parts for that from what I read. tranny engine rear diff etc? If they made a kit for 500 bucks to toss on our legacys that ran 5-8psi I would do it. Sadly I have not found it. http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=605625 <-- supercharger thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motohorseman Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 A super charger is just as hard on your engine as a turbo charger is...no matter what way you look at it. Do you want to do a super charger because you think its safer for the engine? Turbo will be cheaper, easier, and you will have far more support for a turbo setup Pro's and con's to both. No turbo lag with a supercharger, which is a good thing. Either way, kiss your long term reliability away, unless you're going to dump buckets of money into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alter_ Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Pro's and con's to both. No turbo lag with a supercharger, which is a good thing. Either way, kiss your long term reliability away, unless you're going to dump buckets of money into it. Better off with an engine swap. That would be my suggestion. Can get an engine built for boost for 1000-1500 sometimes shipped for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_thorns Posted August 13, 2012 Author Share Posted August 13, 2012 Pro's and con's to both. No turbo lag with a supercharger, which is a good thing. Either way, kiss your long term reliability away, unless you're going to dump buckets of money into it. Exactly why i want a supercharger. From what i know to get the best performance out of a turbo you need to push the motor to high rpms, and it puts to much stress and compression in the motor. I don't know a whole lot about superchargers, but the only thing it would be used for is to pull through shifts. I was thinking that if i had forged rods, had them a little thicker, some nice bearings and piston rings, and maybe bored out the oil passages, it should be enough to withstand it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alter_ Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 everythread I have seen about superchargers on these cars leads to turbos in the end. Although the supercharger idea is nice you are better off with an engine swap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_thorns Posted August 13, 2012 Author Share Posted August 13, 2012 I've noticed that too. It's hard enough trying to find a supercharger kit let alone finding someone who has done it and kept it. I may end up doing an engine swap, considering i do plan on putting a 6-speed in at some point, i was just hoping there was someway to make my current replacement motor work for a supercharger without going too overboard on money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated broknindarkagain Posted August 13, 2012 I Donated Share Posted August 13, 2012 Its cheaper, easier, , and safer to run turbo on these cars. -broknindarkagain My Current Project - Click Here COME AND TAKE IT "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baddog Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 reddevil on the nasioc forums was the only supercharger setup I saw. I still think the wrx swap is the way to go. You need a bunch of parts for that from what I read. tranny engine rear diff etc? If they made a kit for 500 bucks to toss on our legacys that ran 5-8psi I would do it. Sadly I have not found it. http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=605625 <-- supercharger thread Ah reddevil. Hes my parents neighbor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOHCEJ22E1 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Correct me if I'm wrong but there was another guy who had a supercharged Outback (anothernord from SL-I) who then converted it from that to twincharging & then finally settled on turbocharging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alter_ Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Yeah that guy went all out! Said he got the twin charging working- supercharger + turbo but it was "streetable". Was a great thread. But again he ended up turbo charging his. Correct me if I'm wrong but there was another guy who had a supercharged Outback (anothernord from SL-I) who then converted it from that to twincharging & then finally settled on turbocharging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_thorns Posted August 14, 2012 Author Share Posted August 14, 2012 So what exactly goes wrong with the supercharged subarus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alter_ Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 it can be done fairly easy but it is a lot more work from what I have read. Lots of fabrication required to get the supercharger in place. You end up spending a lot more money getting custom fabbed pulley's or mounts. That is why i'm going to just swap my engine for one built for boost. It may save some time down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylormac1993 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Just put a HEMI in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_thorns Posted August 14, 2012 Author Share Posted August 14, 2012 Just put a HEMI in it. where's the "like" button when you need it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated broknindarkagain Posted August 14, 2012 I Donated Share Posted August 14, 2012 There is a "thank you" button. Virtually the same thing -broknindarkagain My Current Project - Click Here COME AND TAKE IT "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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