famaya26 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Guys lets say it is HG. How hard would this job be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truukk Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 I drove down to Rockford IL with mine... just had to add coolant before I left and again before I drove back. Blown head gaskets can be sneaky. Mine doesn't smoke, no coolant in the oil or oil in the coolant...but it's letting exhaust gas into one of the cooling passages. Like I said, test for exhaust gas in your coolant. If it's there, you need new head gaskets. Ill do that also, I appreciate it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Pull the engine, put it on a stand, pull the valve covers, timing belt and the intake manifold, take off the heads, clean-up/dress the heads and make sure they're true and square, reinstall new head gaskets with the prepped heads, button it up, reinstall the valve covers, IM, and TB, reinstall the engine, refill and burp the cooling system. Short list - and the more ancilliary stuff like accessories and fuiel lines that need to disconnected are presumed - but that'll get you 95% of what's involved. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truukk Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 We were debating on the thread I read earlier about replacing them without pulling the whole engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famaya26 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 I think I'll take mine to a shop. This is way to involved for my skills. Dealer quoted me 2200 for a HG job. I asked two other shops that are "Import Specialist" and I stopped listening when they said I had a SOHC Engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 You can do it in the car. I just find it easier to pull the engine and do it on a stand. Plus, you get to go through everything and clean it all up top and bottom, and you will likely want to replace the oil vapor barrier (unless it's already been upgraded) with the latest version. Otherwise, you'd have to pull the transmission so why not kill two birds with one stone? Just a thought. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truukk Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 If I take it to work, It will cost me 210 for the new head gasket kit and all head gasket bolts. Plus 300 to the subaru tech to do it over the weekend while we are closed Also, We are gonna try the in car way first. If it tends to be more of a hassle then it will just come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 And FWIW - that coolant looks wrong. It shouldn't be frothing unless the water pump is cavitating for some reason. Was the water pump replaced during the TB replacement? If not, may well be worth the time and expense to do a WP change-out too, while you have it apart. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famaya26 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 If I take it to work, It will cost me 210 for the new head gasket kit and all head gasket bolts. Plus 300 to the subaru tech to do it over the weekend while we are closed Also, We are gonna try the in car way first. If it tends to be more of a hassle then it will just come out. ^ good to have friends in high places Well good luck with the fix, keep us updated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truukk Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 The water pump im not sure at all, The way its looking the guy did the cheap way out of doing the TB routine . Just did that and nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyposeur Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 $510 is a great deal for HGs! It was a bit tricky and took quite a while when I did my first HGs. But it's not that too bad of a job. All you need is a little common sense, a good manual, and the right tools. Also it was a 22T so it was a bit more complicated and I also replaced any and all other seals for good measure. I would recommend doing it yourself just so you learn something. It was fun too. But if I could have had it done for $510 I would have jumped on it! The foamy coolant is wacky! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truukk Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 We have the full service subaru manual printed off for the HG and torque specs ect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twisty Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 I drove down to Rockford IL with mine... just had to add coolant before I left and again before I drove back. Blown head gaskets can be sneaky. Mine doesn't smoke, no coolant in the oil or oil in the coolant...but it's letting exhaust gas into one of the cooling passages. Like I said, test for exhaust gas in your coolant. If it's there, you need new head gaskets. i had similar happenings with my civic. couldnt figure out the heating up issue, replaced pretty much the whole cooling system. it was all really old anyway, so it would have been done regardless. ended up running the engine with a hose in the rad and the top hose into a bucket to see how much the water pump was pushing out, and was losing a ton of water when on the throttle. changed the head gasket and such, all better now. when it was idling and we had the top hose off, there was barely a trickle of water coming out, and you could smell the exhaust in the hose. mebbe try that if you cant find a HG tester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truukk Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 Im taking it to work later today, and get a test done to it. Like you said about losing water while on the throttle. It only foams up like that when im driving/idle and pushing the gas. Every now and then a bubble in the radiator will pop up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Makes me wonder what fluid is in it (doesn't sound like Subaru coolant) and whether the pump is working correctly. That and a lot of air in the system. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truukk Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 Well its subaru coolant 50/50 for sure. Ive went through alot of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomistopheles Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Exhaust gas in coolant = pockets of gas = pump cavitation = bubbles and foam. Even without the pump whipping it up, the gas will still bubble up in the overflow/rad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truukk Posted July 28, 2012 Author Share Posted July 28, 2012 Update, Engine pulled and tore down. Block is fine. Headgaskets were shot. Someone had replaced them before but still used the outdated faulty ones..So I bought the New updated ones. Someone also put new cam seals in it, Half the bolts werent torque to specs. All is good now though she is up and running. No more white foam, And no more over flowing . Here comes 200k+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomistopheles Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Sweet! I'm almost ready to fix mine... just need to resurface my heads and wait for my parts order to come in. It'll be nice not having to top off the radiator every time I need to drive somewhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truukk Posted July 28, 2012 Author Share Posted July 28, 2012 Yea I know, Hope you get yours done soon!. Its nice not to do that now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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