BXR4T Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Ok guys, I have been looking for an OBXT for a little while now. And I can't decide if I should get a 2005/6 or 2007. Apart from the catless UP and SI drive, what are the pros and cons that an '07 would have over an '05/'06? Or vice versa. My goal is NOT going to be to create a high horsepower beast. That will come after the car is retired from being a DD. My main goal is to have a reliable, fun car to drive. I know some of you will say just get the 2.5i with suspension upgrades then, but I want the turbo. So what are your opinions? (Yes, I searched, but I could not find a thread that plainly listed the pros and cons of each. Please point me in the right direction if it exists.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Is the 07 a 5mt or a 5eat tranny ? The manual trannys will handle more HP. My 2005 wagon is my DD and it has 280whp. Why not do the mods now? "I know some of you will say just get the 2.5i with suspension upgrades", Who in there right mind would say that ? 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nrw Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 I know some of you will say just get the 2.5i with suspension upgrades then http://lolgunabeach.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/dudewaitwhat.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BXR4T Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share Posted July 9, 2012 Not meaning the veterans of this forum, sorry. Some of the noobs think that if you don't want to modify the car, you should have just bought a 2.5i. I will only be buying a 5mt. And the reason for not modifying now is to keep it as reliable as possible. Unless a tune and light mods really would not hurt the longevity of the car?? Thank you for the replies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWSPECB Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Stage 2 with a good tune would not hurt the longevity of the car as long as you keep up on regular maintenance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericem Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 a 07+ vehicle will be more reliable and has a better dash imo. Better turbo and oil supply to the turbo so no issues with blown turbo's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BXR4T Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share Posted July 9, 2012 Thank you, that was one of my concerns as well. I did not want to be shopping for a new turbo, or afraid that it would blow shortly after purchasing a car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BXR4T Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share Posted July 9, 2012 Would 115,000 miles scare you away from purchasing a 2007? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucas569 Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 a 07+ vehicle will be more reliable and has a better dash imo. Better turbo and oil supply to the turbo so no issues with blown turbo's. better dash? how so ? my 05 (the most raw year btw) has zero issues engine wise and i have 142k miles w/the stock turbo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericem Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Well my cluster atleast is better. The woodgrain accents are personal preference. Also aux and having the srs mode on the system is a nice bonus. http://images.thecarconnection.com/lrg/2009-subaru-legacy-4-door-h4-auto-gt-ltd-instrument-cluster_100244916_l.jpg also subaru changed where the banjo bolt location is I assume to equalize the length of the oil line to the turbo and avcs solenoid and changed to a vf46. They must have reasons for updating the design IMO. I am sure if you do regular maintenance and keep up with the schedule doing 3k oil changes the 05-06 would be fine. But many push that 5-6k interval and I guess it was more risky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nrw Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 What's that P for in the middle of your cluster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericem Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Paaarkkkk :A It also says R N D 5 4 3 2 1 and has arrows that point ^ and down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobyscoodle Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Personally I like the 05-06 cluster better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucas569 Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 better to YOU i suppose, AUX? i have 2 PLUS direct ipod hookup. wood grain looks like crap imo. but to each their own. not taking away from the 07 looks but i think were splitting hairs here. 05-06 dash below for your viewing pleasure http://legacygt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=122234&d=1341869774 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneDoubleN Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Hands down I prefer the 05 dash. I also like NOT having SI drive, pretty useless knob IMHO, and one more thing to malfunction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucas569 Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 wait its auto? nvm, my sister would love it! i kid i kid....or do i? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee07 Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Nothing really other than slightly different in and exteriors(slightly). Buy which ever one is available and with a great price and with an healthy engine. If it happens to be an 05 or 07 so be it, either way it's a subaru, so it's reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nrw Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Paaarkkkk :A It also says R N D 5 4 3 2 1 and has arrows that point ^ and down. what's all that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericem Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 its all automagic non sense i guess. I don't know sounds like you guys are jealous of that beautiful screen on the tach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 its all automagic non sense i guess. I don't know sounds like you guys are jealous of that beautiful screen on the tach Not me, My 09 SpecB has a nice dash, but my 05 wagon has much more HP. Like it was said, the 05 is very raw. It's more of a man's car. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidWombat Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 For sedans, 07+ have folding rear seats which is a huge bonus. SI drive is a nice feature for the 5EAT because it effects the transmission shift logic as well. The VF46 in 07+ is probably slightly more reliable, but all will be sensitive to maintaining a regular 3750 OCI. A well maintained 05/06 is probably better than an unknown 07. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berzerklo Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 I also like NOT having SI drive, pretty useless knob IMHO, and one more thing to malfunction. I seem to be one of the few people on here that actually like the SI drive. Sure its kinda gimmicky, but I like having the option to adjust my throttle response... It makes stop and go traffic much easier. OP I think you should look for the car that seems to be best maintained and lowest miles, and not worry so much about the year of manufacture. Oh an +1 for the folding rear seat. That is super handy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Glen Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 a 07+ vehicle will be more reliable and has a better dash imo. Better turbo and oil supply to the turbo so no issues with blown turbo's. Well said. I am eating ramen noodles everyday because I am poor from buying parts for my blown turbo on my 05. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericem Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 ya i honestly feel bad reading all these blown turbo than knocking engine threads. No one can argue that the sooo unraw 07+ oil supply and turbo is a gimmick. Nice so the 05-06 is soooo much more raw talk about 05-06 fan boys wtf does that mean ??? Because i have that little screen and a knob that adjusts throttle response the car is suddenly no longer a raw car which if you cant tell im being sarcastic both cars are very refined and smooth compared to most subies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Raw, as in noisy, rough, you feel more of the road. But it does have good feedback and steering feel. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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