gfxdave99 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 There are plenty of threads on.. "how does this look, does this fit" etc etc.. My question is.. Compared to stock 17"s and potenzas how does the LGT ride when upgraded to 18/19/20 etc How does it corner, stop, feel, ride on the highway, handle dips in the road etc etc.. I'm thinking of going up a size but would like some more in depth information beyond "well it rides different" Thanks in advance. If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough. - Mario Andretti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfxdave99 Posted June 14, 2005 Author Share Posted June 14, 2005 Wow no love.. If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough. - Mario Andretti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 There are plenty of threads on.. "how does this look, does this fit" etc etc.. My question is.. Compared to stock 17"s and potenzas how does the LGT ride when upgraded to 18/19/20 etc How does it corner, stop, feel, ride on the highway, handle dips in the road etc etc.. I'm thinking of going up a size but would like some more in depth information beyond "well it rides different" Thanks in advance. that will depend on the weight of the rim, the width, the size of the tire, type, construction and weight of the tire.. this is too big of an open end question that can lead to a bunch of opinions. I cant' say that I have gone with (+2/+3) 19"s or 20"s (I dont see why people really need to go that tall for a wheel other than looks.) this really matters in terms the rim choice you have and the tire you choose. heavy rims with too narrow of a tire isnt going to help you in ride quality, same goes for the profile as well and not keeping within the rules of the plus sizing method. How specific do you want me to get? Cuz I can get into soo much detail that you would end up reading for days. Read the offset and tire sizing sticky, that should give you a rough estimate of what you are looking for. http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4426 Even tire pressures will change the way the ride, turn-in and gas mileage a little bit. Keefe Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scatman Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Well, I went to 18x7.5 +48 with 225/40 rubber. I think in order to get a really subjective opinion I will need to "cycle" through my stock (winter) tires and my 18" (summer) tires a couple more times to tell. My "butt meter" may not be very sensitive because I really did not feel much of a change at all. That and I switched over to the 18" with only 400 miles on the car, and was taking it easy for break in. Not much help here, but the moral of the story is: apperance wise=huge. Performance wise=unless you race, dont expect much either + or - . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfxdave99 Posted June 14, 2005 Author Share Posted June 14, 2005 that will depend on the weight of the rim, the width, the size of the tire, type, construction and weight of the tire.. this is too big of an open end question that can lead to a bunch of opinions. I cant' say that I have gone with (+2/+3) 19"s or 20"s (I dont see why people really need to go that tall for a wheel other than looks.) this really matters in terms the rim choice you have and the tire you choose. heavy rims with too narrow of a tire isnt going to help you in ride quality, same goes for the profile as well and not keeping within the rules of the plus sizing method. How specific do you want me to get? Cuz I can get into soo much detail that you would end up reading for days. Read the offset and tire sizing sticky, that should give you a rough estimate of what you are looking for. http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4426 Even tire pressures will change the way the ride, turn-in and gas mileage a little bit. Keefe Okay so i'll make it more specific.. looking at your list i would either be going with either 245/35/18 or 225/35/19 depending on what rim i chose.. now that being said with either of those choices would i be riding much harder on stock springs / setup... and would having the extra meat of the 245/18 vs the 235/19 be better for cornering... Basically I want to go up to 18/19 possibly do a small drop (no more then an inch) and have a nice clean gap, not rub and not make my car feel like a nascar circuit car on Illinois lovely highway system... Does that give you some more into what im trying to ask? If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough. - Mario Andretti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 your ride on the 19"s will be more harsh than the 245/35/18.. I assume these will be your summer wheels.. you might want to opt for a stronger sidewall tire to prevent the rim from breaking or bending. You will feel the bumps, but the car's dampening is pretty good so that you dont get that go-kart feeling. I think it's best that you should also invest in some camber bolts to ensure that you dont rub. It's going to be VERY hard for you to find a good rim width for the 245/35/18 with a good offset and not have it rub on the fender or the spring perch. Your wheel choice will be a really huge centerpiece that will determine if your car will feel slow, or feel REALLY slow. After all, your braking will feel heavier and harder to stop, your acceleration off the line will be slower or at least feel slower. Your steering input and feedback will vary, but you will need to get use to some of the extra vibrations since you are not only running wider tires, but more mass being deflected through the grooves and potholes. I would say, if stock is the perfect ride quality, I think it's possible that you can drop out 25% to 40% of the ride quality out of the car if you are just going with some lowering springs that have barely no performance and just relies solely on the stock shocks to do the work. Keefe Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepFreeze2 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Hey Dave, you can check my car out (ride in/drive) one day, if you want. Since we're in the same "neck of the woods", and all. PM me and we can set something up. I have 18" G-racing Sekis and 225/40/18 Falken Ziex 512's, if you recall. YA RLY!!! Home of +2500 useless posts!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drift Monkey Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 My passengers don't notice any changes in ride quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nKoan Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 I can feel the bumps from the road on my 18" Prodrive P1's (with 225/40/18 Kuhmo MX tires) more then stock wheels/tires. But then again, the worst ride (in terms of noise and feeling bumps) are these 17" Gram Lights with STi rubber on them (225/45/17 Potenza 070). As soon as I get a flat fixed, these will likely only be wheels for track/auto-x because they have some great grip, but they are awful for road trips. Personally, I'll probably be jumping back down to 17" all the time. If I find another set of 18" wheels, I may get them for summer street tires, but I certainly won't race or put snow tires on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoDork Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 i went with Prodrive PFF-7's (18x8) with Toyo T1-s's (245/35/18) set on Coilovers. I've driven with both the stock rim/tire and the prodrive/toyo's, the toyo's are bit more noisy and the ride is a bit more harsh...handling is greatly improved as with conering and overall feel. i switched back to my stock rims/tires for extended trips to mammoth and Norcal and the ride softens out and is alot more suited for long hauls, but you give up the handling and cornering due to the Stock RE-92's.... as far as the Toyo's and the ride quality, its just a matter of dialing in my suspension to even that out... ~Sucka-Duck~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfxdave99 Posted June 17, 2005 Author Share Posted June 17, 2005 Hey Dave, you can check my car out (ride in/drive) one day, if you want. Since we're in the same "neck of the woods", and all. PM me and we can set something up. I have 18" G-racing Sekis and 215/45/18 Falken Ziex 512's, if you recall. Yeah they look diz-ope too If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough. - Mario Andretti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfxdave99 Posted June 17, 2005 Author Share Posted June 17, 2005 your ride on the 19"s will be more harsh than the 245/35/18.. I assume these will be your summer wheels.. you might want to opt for a stronger sidewall tire to prevent the rim from breaking or bending. You will feel the bumps, but the car's dampening is pretty good so that you dont get that go-kart feeling. I think it's best that you should also invest in some camber bolts to ensure that you dont rub. It's going to be VERY hard for you to find a good rim width for the 245/35/18 with a good offset and not have it rub on the fender or the spring perch. Your wheel choice will be a really huge centerpiece that will determine if your car will feel slow, or feel REALLY slow. After all, your braking will feel heavier and harder to stop, your acceleration off the line will be slower or at least feel slower. Your steering input and feedback will vary, but you will need to get use to some of the extra vibrations since you are not only running wider tires, but more mass being deflected through the grooves and potholes. I would say, if stock is the perfect ride quality, I think it's possible that you can drop out 25% to 40% of the ride quality out of the car if you are just going with some lowering springs that have barely no performance and just relies solely on the stock shocks to do the work. Keefe Okay after re-reading the responses here and re-reading the offset thread I dont think I want to go any higher then 18s, Might even just go to different 17s. .. If i stick within the requirements laid out in the offset thread I guess what I am not clicking with / understanidng is how two wheels with the same basic weight / offset / width and tire size would feel slower then another.. Or were you trying to say going with 19s vs 18s 17s etc? Also I know it sounds like a stupid question but if it will fit a WRX does that go hand in hand with it being able to fit a LGT (providing they are 17/18 for the sake of brake clearance)? Okay and last silly question.. some of the rims i see say they are both 5x100 and 5x114.3.. thats not possible if they have only 5 bolts but if they are like this http://www.wheelsite.com/wheelpics/blackrt51lg.jpg It can handle both, correct? If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough. - Mario Andretti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nKoan Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 The wheel weight will affect your acceleration. You can only move as fast as your wheels spin, and if they spin up slower, then acceleration will be affected. In my opinion, this isn't horribly noticable. And for street driving, it probably isn't for most people either. Pretty much any wheel that fits a WRX (with the exception of the 05 STi) will fit an LGT. Double check with Xenonk's wheel thread thingy. About your last question, a lot of wheels are made with multiple bolt pattern options. Sometimes its like in the picture you posted, sometimes its because they have different molds that have the different bolt patterns. Either way works. Just make sure you get the right bolt pattern (5x100) when ordering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostjunkie Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 I think it depends a lot on the choice of tires. I'm running 19" wheels with 225/35/19 Falken ST-115 tires. When I was still on my stock suspension I could hardly notice the difference in the ride from stock. There was some more road noise, but it wasn't objectionable. There really wan't a difference in impact harshness, which really surprised me. The Falkens are pretty soft though, so I'm if you picked a tire with firmer sidewalls there would be a bigger sacrifice in comfort. As to handling, the overall level of grip is much higher, and even though the tires are relatively soft, it is still much more responsive than the stock wheel/tire combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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