ClimberDHexMods Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Where do you see prices? All I see is a really pretty chart that shows the 7670:wub: There are prices on that diesel site, but people are saying those prices aren't actual, or won't be what FR charges. FWIW. [CENTER][B][I] Front Limited Slip Racing Differentials for the 5EAT now available for $1895 shipped, please inquire for details! [/I][/B][/CENTER] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby2.5 Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 click on the pretty chart, in the area of one of the turbos listed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueGT Posted November 9, 2010 Author Share Posted November 9, 2010 IIRC the 6758 (49 lbs/min) will be the biggest stock location one available. At $1775 that sounds like a pretty stinkin good deal to me! Full tune of 68HTA, KSTech 73 MAF, Racer X FMIC and ID1000s................by the DataLog Mafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby2.5 Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Yea thats the one I was checking out. OK littleblue, install it and see what she does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClimberDHexMods Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Not a bad way to spend $2500 dollars... I really need to work more... [CENTER][B][I] Front Limited Slip Racing Differentials for the 5EAT now available for $1895 shipped, please inquire for details! [/I][/B][/CENTER] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
executor485 Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Not a bad way to spend $2500 dollars... I really need to work more... When you start using quotes from Fast and the Furious in forum threads... You may be a ricer. If I pass you on the right, I'm flipping you off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockle3 Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 please dont make me whip out the the plethora of Fast and the Furious quotes, I can do it all day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
executor485 Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 please dont make me whip out the the plethora of Fast and the Furious quotes, I can do it all day Your only allowed to do it if we can turn it into a drinking game... And seeing as I'm at work, and without a bottle of liquor... I'd say we'll have to hold off for a while. If I pass you on the right, I'm flipping you off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueGT Posted November 14, 2010 Author Share Posted November 14, 2010 Some pics, now we can see how the IWG works: http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/RPM-2/SEMA%20Las%20Vegas%202010/DSCF3270.jpg http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/RPM-2/SEMA%20Las%20Vegas%202010/DSCF3271.jpg http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/RPM-2/SEMA%20Las%20Vegas%202010/DSCF3272.jpg http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/RPM-2/SEMA%20Las%20Vegas%202010/DSCF3273.jpg http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/RPM-2/SEMA%20Las%20Vegas%202010/DSCF3275.jpg Full tune of 68HTA, KSTech 73 MAF, Racer X FMIC and ID1000s................by the DataLog Mafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSFW Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Divided all the way to the door. Pretty cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsunami Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 So which ones are the stock location turbos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueGT Posted November 15, 2010 Author Share Posted November 15, 2010 I think (but really don't know, say 80% sure) the 6258 and the 6758. The 6758 is what has my interest, the pressure should work pretty good for a 2.5 liter (although it can truthfully be said that these turbos will be better maximized with 2.0 liters and the higher boost and higher pr they will see). Should be a good solid 47-48 lbs/min of airflow, 350 whp on pump and 400 whp on alky set-up that hopefully has about the same response as a stock turbo. Full tune of 68HTA, KSTech 73 MAF, Racer X FMIC and ID1000s................by the DataLog Mafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumfoo1 Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Neato I like the ts setup I can't wait till subie relevant dynos start showing up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueGT Posted November 15, 2010 Author Share Posted November 15, 2010 The two smaller ones are the ones to be used for stock location. The things is "stock location" should be qualified: Stock inlet location, they are working on an UP and DP that will work, but stock turbo inlet should work fine, and stock STI style TMIC or many FMIC will work. The 6258 should see 15 psi by about 2500 rpm or so is the hopes, with near NA quality response. Geoff seems to think the 7670 will be the real Subaru Ticket for 2.5 liters (in TS 0.92 a/r IWG guise): http://www.full-race.com/store/images/full/borgwarner-efr-7670-turbo-content-1.jpg Work is in progress, hope it isn't too many months longer til we see some up and running. Full tune of 68HTA, KSTech 73 MAF, Racer X FMIC and ID1000s................by the DataLog Mafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full-Race Geoff Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 littleblueGT - thanks for keeping everyone here updated - you definitely have a solid understanding of the EFR's. EFR turbos fit "stock location" subarus in 6258 and 6758 sizes, using the "A" compressor housing. Between those, the 6258 will be an outstanding performer for the sub 420whp range and stock cams. For a little bit more power the 6758 is capable of increased compressor flow and should have a similar boost threshold. of course I'm a diehard twinscroll fan, so with the ability to have twinscroll and true divided internal wastegate i think the 7670 .92 a/r is the ticket... if I was building myself a subaru thats the setup i'd have on it. ill try and repost the comp maps in lb/min tonite, got a ton of work to do first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full-Race Geoff Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 also a great video showing the history of BorgWarner and the EFR turbos is here: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfuE6xiij9g]YouTube - EFR Turbo Series from BorgWarner Turbo Systems[/ame] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueGT Posted November 15, 2010 Author Share Posted November 15, 2010 EFR turbos fit "stock location" subarus in 6258 and 6758 sizes, using the "A" compressor housing. Between those, the 6258 will be an outstanding performer for the sub 420whp range and stock cams. For a little bit more power the 6758 is capable of increased compressor flow and should have a similar boost threshold. 420 whp on a dyno-jet with E85 or race gas, OK. I look at the 6258 as 20G power, with hopefully better then VF40 response. As per our conversation today, I hope to help people understand the difference between boost threshold and response. They are related, but are not the same thing, here goes my illustration: Bentley weighs 5000 lbs but goes 200 mph vs a 911 that weighs 3300 lbs and only goes 190 mph. (approximately) Bentley is faster, right? Sure it is, but it takes 4.5 secs to go from 0-60 and the 911 turbo takes 2.8. Why? weight has a lot to do with it. When we do a dyno or road log in 3rd or 4th gear, we are seeing what the boost threshold is, pretty much regardless of how much time it takes to spin the turbo up to speed. This is like top speed of a car, the Bentley will go pretty damn fast, but below 100 mph the 911 Turbo will rape it. A lower gear run will help to show the difference better. A turbo that is capable of the same boost threshold (in a higher gear when time is of little importance, and just airflow is) will get up to speed much quicker if it has a substantially lighter rotating assembly. This is why the 911 has a much better 0-60 time, it weighs less. Full tune of 68HTA, KSTech 73 MAF, Racer X FMIC and ID1000s................by the DataLog Mafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumfoo1 Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 irregardless Without-Without-Regard (not to grammar nazi but that one has always bothered me) Response is more... 4000 rpm light throttle to punch it which ones comes up faster Boost threshold is Punch it and wait for rpms to climb till boost comes on. Response is rotational more interial based & less aero (but still based on both) Threshold is more areo and less inertial I hope you agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueGT Posted November 16, 2010 Author Share Posted November 16, 2010 irregardless Without-Without-Regard (not to grammar nazi but that one has always bothered me) Response is more... 4000 rpm light throttle to punch it which ones comes up faster Boost threshold is Punch it and wait for rpms to climb till boost comes on. Response is rotational more interial based & less aero (but still based on both) Threshold is more areo and less inertial I hope you agree. Sorry, fixed yes, yes, and yes. Full tune of 68HTA, KSTech 73 MAF, Racer X FMIC and ID1000s................by the DataLog Mafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClimberDHexMods Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 irregardless Without-Without-Regard (not to grammar nazi but that one has always bothered me) Response is more... 4000 rpm light throttle to punch it which ones comes up faster Boost threshold is Punch it and wait for rpms to climb till boost comes on. Response is rotational more interial based & less aero (but still based on both) Threshold is more areo and less inertial I hope you agree. And the grammar Nazi part is kind of funny, since 'irregardless' isn't a word... Regardless, good points. [CENTER][B][I] Front Limited Slip Racing Differentials for the 5EAT now available for $1895 shipped, please inquire for details! [/I][/B][/CENTER] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockle3 Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 the video was good except the woman's voice pissed me off. She sounded so smug and talked so quietly that it was impossible to hear her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickz31se-r Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 So this is the part where I should be happy that have not installed my 49lb turbo, ewg and coated perrin header....yet I should be pissed at the same time b/c now I will feel the need to drop more cash. Oh what to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueGT Posted November 16, 2010 Author Share Posted November 16, 2010 Like every new thing, sometimes time is of the essence. I would love this stuff to be available today, but it is not. Hopefully soon, but sometimes there are delays. I am planning this for my next build, which may be a 2012 STI. Full tune of 68HTA, KSTech 73 MAF, Racer X FMIC and ID1000s................by the DataLog Mafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumfoo1 Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Yeah I'm sitting here thinking stage 2 my vf52 or say f*ck it and twinscroll efr 7670 me turbo me! I guess I'm going to buy used stuff while I scrape together the cash. I don't even have a built motor yet so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 i'm waiting to sleeve my block.... 24psi max is annoying My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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