Th3Franz Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Uploaded KGB's results. The pulls start at the pretty much the same RPM, though it may be better if he started below 2500 RPM. Posting inline here too: http://www.boxerturbo.com/share/IgorEFR91.PNG http://www.boxerturbo.com/share/IgorEFRE85.PNG -Franz The end of a Legacy http://www.youtube.com/th3franz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Why is there a loop on the graph? My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RooTBeeR Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Why is there a loop on the graph? That's what happens when you don't edit out the data from the dyno pull after you finish the pull and the RPMs start to drop. "Build" Thread <--Link (OLD) '05 EJ255 now a '13 EJ257 Bottom End w/D25 heads (NEW) Forever Slow [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 That's what happens when you don't edit out the data from the dyno pull after you finish the pull and the RPMs start to drop. Negative ghost rider, the patter is full. You dont edit dyno graphs, thats called "cheating". It could be torque converter lock up (but it seems high). It could be slip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeeeeeYa Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Negative ghost rider, the patter is full. You dont edit dyno graphs, thats called "cheating". It could be torque converter lock up (but it seems high). It could be slip. Almost certain it's the TC... mine did the same thing at about the same place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RooTBeeR Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Negative ghost rider, the patter is full. You dont edit dyno graphs, thats called "cheating". It could be torque converter lock up (but it seems high). It could be slip. Yeah sorry, I've gotten far too used to using Virtual Dyno "Build" Thread <--Link (OLD) '05 EJ255 now a '13 EJ257 Bottom End w/D25 heads (NEW) Forever Slow [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbc84 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Finally got my car back from the shop to install the Full Race TS 7163 kit. Car is currently running a base map so I can break in the new motor and clutch. Hopefully everything holds up fine when it goes in for the final tune next weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGB Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Any updates on your TS 7163 build? I decided to go with the Kelford 199-B cams And using Tomei sprockets advance the Exhoust cams a bit - this should shift the curve to the Left, how much tbd... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGB Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Little update: Yimi is finally putting together my motor based on a closed block, WPC treated and all, in preparation to accepting the EFR 7163 TS. Fingers crossed. In the meanwhile I put all my previous turbos for sale (see eBay) to fund this extravaganza - you'll find VF40, VF52, AVO380, and EFR 6258 SS (and EFR 7163 SS that's coming off my car now) and other supporting goodies injectors, TMIC, all in good working order - email me and I'll offer another 10% discount to LGT ppl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGB Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 FYI, the motor is now bolted together, in the next few weeks Yimi will be installing it into the bay - lots of welding involved, the breaking-in (hopefully no blowup:) then tune - I'll keep all updated... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGB Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 FYI, the motor is now bolted together, in the next few weeks Yimi will be installing it into the bay - lots of welding involved, the breaking-in (hopefully no blowup:) then tune - I'll keep all updated... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rester5350 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 FYI, the motor is now bolted together, in the next few weeks Yimi will be installing it into the bay - lots of welding involved, the breaking-in (hopefully no blowup:) then tune - I'll keep all updated... I was just wondering how your build was coming along. Happy to see some progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGB Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 FYI, my built is almost done - motor is together, the 7163 twin snail is in, needs some piping & welding, and a custom 1/2-wave resonator to get rid of the drone... I'll update soon when the tuning fun starts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGB Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 FYI, my built is almost done - motor is together, the 7163 twin snail is in, needs some piping & welding, and a custom 1/2-wave resonator to get rid of the drone... I'll update soon when the tuning fun starts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhitter Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 I am looking forward to seeing it. Just curious, why has it taken so long? My OBXT build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGB Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 FYI, it's been a while, but she is finally ALIVE! just finished break-in the motor on the dyno The car is not yet tuned but, the boost threshold is identical to the 6258 - Wow! (6258 is a small 43lb stock-like fast spooling turbo, whereas 7163 TS is a 63lb turbo Peak power was a promising 305whp at only 13 psi. more updates to come when the fine tuning to commence... ps: tranny is holding so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGB Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 ps: if somebody please help me post a few pictures of the 7163 TS in my engine bay (I am not seem to be able to upload picts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 What's the issue you're getting with upload? - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGB Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 a quick update - 7163 TS is in, no tuning yet but I am getting over 300whp on just the base map - little - 2- no lag, in fact, I have a problem - compressor surge - looks like the engine cannot ingest the air the turbo is happy to provide! Any suggestions how to best deal with this? I am going to change mufflers to try to quiet the car, going to try 2.5" x 2 Maddad's - anybody has experience with this, noise wise? More soon - I should have the tuning done over Thanksgiving... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSFW Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 I'm pretty sure you'd need a considerably bigger turbo to get that sort of compressor surge. My guess is that what you're hearing is just wastegate flutter, which will probably be fixed with further tuning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th3Franz Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 The 7163 has a unique spool sound. I'd be surprised if you're getting actual surge. You could try targeting less boost at lower rpm. The turbo will make 10+ psi before 3000 rpm, at least with my twin scroll setup. a quick update - 7163 TS is in, no tuning yet but I am getting over 300whp on just the base map - little - 2- no lag, in fact, I have a problem - compressor surge - looks like the engine cannot ingest the air the turbo is happy to provide! Any suggestions how to best deal with this? I am going to change mufflers to try to quiet the car, going to try 2.5" x 2 Maddad's - anybody has experience with this, noise wise? More soon - I should have the tuning done over Thanksgiving... -Franz The end of a Legacy http://www.youtube.com/th3franz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtea Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Yeah my 6758 is a noisy girl, also thought I had compressor surge. Sounds like r2d2 considering an an epiphany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGB Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Quick update - my TS7163 motor puts down 380whp in Cal 91 - not bad at all considering its a 5EAT. Instaling Maddad mufflers next to quiet things down and then e85 tune... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtea Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Quick update - my TS7163 motor puts down 380whp in Cal 91 - not bad at all considering its a 5EAT. Instaling Maddad mufflers next to quiet things down and then e85 tune... I'm going to say 488 on e85. Can't wait to see your curves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGB Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 It WILL make more than 500hp, but I may dial it back a bit So far the spool-up in near stock-like, at least by the graph, of course the EFR is MUCH more linear spooling than the spike & drop VF turbos... just linear pull, pull and PULL, way beyond what an OEM OBXT suspension & breaks can handle, scarry! (I already upgraded the brakes, and if the transmission holds I'll be upgrading the suspension next with a Bilstein Kit from japan, unless somebody has an even better idea, anybody...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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