msmith Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 I should also add that, if you use a JL Audio amp, you won't need the LOC at all. You can run the factory speaker outputs straight into the amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-2.5-GT Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Manville: LOC? LOC = Line Out Converter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
direavenger Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Hah, figures that I do active crossover design work in college, and have to ask about the stipd stuff... BTW Manville, nice JL product plug The Dude - Two inches and counting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
direavenger Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Manville: do you recommend any 4+1 channel JL Audio amps in the price range that you gave to iyamdaman? The Dude - Two inches and counting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmith Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 The e6450 six-channel can be used as a five channel by bridging two of its channels. It has an MSRP of $450... dealers set actual selling price. Here's more info: http://www.jlaudio.com/amps/e6450.html Best regards, Manville Smith JL Audio, Inc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChE Outback XT Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 I mean if you are looking high end jl, ads,mb quarts, diamond audio, and that other front that going for like 3,000 to 5,000 dollars......... I think that estimate's a bit high. I'm planning to install a JL system for around $2500 all said and done. Here's what I'm planning: CleanSweep 500/5 Amp 10W60 Sub w/ Pro Wedge enclosure XR650CXi for both front and rear doors Dynamat all doors This might not be "high end" in the eyes of some, especially because I'm going on the small side with the sub (250W), but I think that it will be more than enough for me. I'm also planning to add either an iBook or Mac Mini with 10" touchscreen, (DVD, of course), GPS, and a Bluetooth keyboard and trackball which will add another $2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iyamdman Posted April 20, 2005 Author Share Posted April 20, 2005 Thanx Manville, Good advice. This is actually turning into a nice and informative thread. At least I know what to focus on and the priority for audio output. My car came with the Stock Subwoofer. How does that effect things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim malach Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 Don't get me wrong I didn't say the entire system cost that much, I was just say that there is a company trying to sell a front stage set-up for like $5,000. I mean I used to throw together the hardest hitting bass around give you an example. I use to own a 93 escort gt, and me and my friend put an 2.75cu.ft per side with orion dual voice coils and I got that all for like $450. I hit a 163 back in the day with 4 batt. Then I learned somthing about highs,and got all ads set-up dual 6.5 320is fronts and 325i in rear, I had an 250 hcca runing the highs and 2150 running the subs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iyamdman Posted April 21, 2005 Author Share Posted April 21, 2005 The stock Limited audio system has 6 speakers" 2 front 6" 2 front 2" tweeters 2 Rear 6" Is this correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
direavenger Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 iyamdman: I haven't heard Subaru's subwoofer in action, but it most likely will not compare to an aftermarket setup. The important thing though is if you're satisfied with it. If it's ok with you, there is no reason to drop 200 clams on a sub/box/amp. The Dude - Two inches and counting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChE Outback XT Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 The Subie sub is definitely a good match for the speakers. No sense in getting much more without upgrading the whole system. The speakers give out before the amp at moderate to high volumes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iyamdman Posted April 21, 2005 Author Share Posted April 21, 2005 I read several user review of the sub and some aftermarkets like Clarion, and basically everyone said they were the same, or close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGT Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 people are referring to a small enclosure that fits under the seat. that doesn't compare with a "real" sub and amp combo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-2.5-GT Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 people are referring to a small enclosure that fits under the seat. that doesn't compare with a "real" sub and amp combo 110% correct... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmith Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 Thanx Manville, Good advice. This is actually turning into a nice and informative thread. At least I know what to focus on and the priority for audio output. My car came with the Stock Subwoofer. How does that effect things? It doesn't... just disconnect that silly little thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfxdave99 Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 So i want to replace the speakers, I went to Circuit City and liked the sound of the db6500s for the front doors, Is it worth my time to replace the rear door speakers? If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough. - Mario Andretti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clash Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 Stay away from polk. JL XR 650-CSi are around $220 range on ebay. These are really really good comps for the price. I think Tweeter has them in the display room if you want to check them out. Puting the comps in the front powered by a amp of your choice should be enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfxdave99 Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 Stay away from polk. JL XR 650-CSi are around $220 range on ebay. These are really really good comps for the price. I think Tweeter has them in the display room if you want to check them out. Puting the comps in the front powered by a amp of your choice should be enough. The specs on the JL look nice but they have a 3.2 inch deep basket, is there enough room in the door to put in an inch of spacers and still get the door back on and not hit the window? If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough. - Mario Andretti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clash Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 msmith got the 5.25 inch XR650-CSi in his wagon. I guess the 6.5 doesnt fit? weird. http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11345 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfxdave99 Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 msmith got the 5.25 inch XR650-CSi in his wagon. I guess the 6.5 doesnt fit? weird. http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11345 look at the door install He pretty much made new doors http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11345 If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough. - Mario Andretti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deneb Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 Manville, would it be better to replace the front midrange and the tweeter as opposed to putting a coax in the front door? Or would you recommend a 6.5" coax in the front door and leave the stock tweeter? This would be in an install retaining the stock amp. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clash Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 look at the door install He pretty much made new doors http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11345 wooops.. your right... hahah... maybe Msmith would know if those comps would fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGT Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 Manville, would it be better to replace the front midrange and the tweeter as opposed to putting a coax in the front door? Or would you recommend a 6.5" coax in the front door and leave the stock tweeter? This would be in an install retaining the stock amp. Thanks! Swap for a coax and disconnect the stock tweeter. The midrange and tweeter are designed to work together and be in the same plane and point-source. Having the tweeter a foot away from the mid is silly. If you do separates, mount the tweeter as close to the mid as possible and don't use the stock tweeter location. A bridge mounted separate is a better choice than putting the tweeter in the stock location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deneb Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 Thanks for the advice! Do you happen to know if the stock midrange driver in our doors currently has it's output rolled off either via crossover or electronically via the amp? If I put a coax in the door, I'm wondering if I need to disable or disconnect something in the signal path that may cause the speakers output to roll off say at around 3k Hz or something like that, such that a coax wouldn't sound very good due to having reduced high frequencies. I don't know if our stock stereos are that advanced or not, it seems to be just four 6.5" full range drivers and a pair of tweets that probably just have a cheap resistor to keep them from getting any lower freqs. I wish we had better drivers in the stock stereo, the ones there now are probably $2 cheapo drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGT Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 From previous experience, the midranges probably are playing full range off the stereo, and they naturally roll off at the high end. The tweeter is probably run in parallel off that door lead with a resistor to cut low frequency out. You would be safe just installing a coax in place of the mid - try it with and without the stock tweeter to see how you like it. I left the stock tweeters hooked up in my Jeep, only because I knew the extra hi-end would help when the top was down. In previous cars, I have always disconnected the stock tweeter though, as it ruined the install. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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