dc90ms Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 I want to turbo my 06 legacy 2.5i 5 speed . i sold my gsx and want something turbo. i was wondering if the stock gt manifold will fit. also what the equal length and not equal length stuff? so far here is what all i came up with that i need. exhaust manifold turbo oil lines coolent lines inter cooler ic pipe bov fuel pump a 190? injectors stock gt ones? don't know the size. some thing to tune it with. i was only planing on running like 6-8 psi. Im new to this Subaru thing haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilT Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 This question has been asked so many times, and the answer remains the same. It would be cheaper and you would get a more satisfactory result to sell your 2.5i and buy a GT. Double Award Winning Legacy GT Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtmenace Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 I want to turbo my 06 legacy 2.5i 5 speed . i sold my gsx and want something turbo. i was wondering if the stock gt manifold will fit. also what the equal length and not equal length stuff? so far here is what all i came up with that i need. exhaust manifold turbo oil lines coolent lines inter cooler ic pipe bov fuel pump a 190? injectors stock gt ones? don't know the size. some thing to tune it with. i was only planing on running like 6-8 psi. Im new to this Subaru thing haha wow ... "turb" the sh1t out of it & let us know how it works out for you. also, you will need a combo of "the equal length & not equal length stuff" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 this question has been asked so many times, and the answer remains the same. It would be cheaper and you would get a more satisfactory result to sell your 2.5i and buy a gt. +1 My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEE-OTTO Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 Hey Hey Hey, people don't bash the guy! He might have his 06 paid off something many of the nay-sayers do not and that aspect is a big part of the "buy a GT". To the original poster if you want boost(add a turbo) your 2.5i the hardware is the least of your issues I think the bigger hurdle will be engine management. To my knowledge there is no engine management that is made for the 06+ Legacy 2.5i ECU YET. The parts are fairly straightforward and easy to find and wont cost you a ton of money. It would be sweet to boost our 2.5i but without Engine Management to run the setup properly you risk blowing your motor. BUT if you want to do a SWAP a LGT with your 2.5i that would be a first and a easy ( relative to the history of swapping) one. You could then run a Front Mount Inter-cooler and have a sleek sleeper. Point being don't think that LGT.com is full of negative members that will always say NO or buy a LGT. And hell you might even discover something about a turbo conversion for the entire 2.5i community. Someone has to do it at some point in time and with the first 4th generation legacies aging swaps and conversions are becoming more cost friendly to all and the front runners will take the brunt of the hate but you can say that "I did it". They told me i couldnt mod a Stock EL to UEL I did that first, they said LGT systems wouldnt fit in a 2.5i I did them ALL they said there was a difference btwn piping sizes I measured. Let us know where you stand with parts, ideas, etc and the ones that are willing to help will do so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Users LieutenantDan Posted November 29, 2009 Mega Users Share Posted November 29, 2009 Well, do you agree that this undertaking clearly needs more help and support than some suggestions on a forum? If people are serious about doing these kinds of things, why don't they just do them? Figure it out on your own and then post up a walkthrough for everyone else so no one else has to ask about this. It's fine to ask questions or to seek guidance but this forum isn't the add a turbo to your N/A car forum. This forum is primarily for GT owners. And it is expensive, impractical, a headache, probably impossible, etc. Why is it so impractical to buy the car that you want in the first place(a GT, with a turbo already on it)? This is like me starting a thread saying that I want to put a cummins diesel in my LGT. I have this, this, this, and this. What else do I need? Wouldn't I be much better off going to the pros? I think so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 Hey Hey Hey, people don't bash the guy! He might have his 06 paid off something many of the nay-sayers do not and that aspect is a big part of the "buy a GT". To the original poster if you want boost(add a turbo) your 2.5i the hardware is the least of your issues I think the bigger hurdle will be engine management. To my knowledge there is no engine management that is made for the 06+ Legacy 2.5i ECU YET. The parts are fairly straightforward and easy to find and wont cost you a ton of money. It would be sweet to boost our 2.5i but without Engine Management to run the setup properly you risk blowing your motor. BUT if you want to do a SWAP a LGT with your 2.5i that would be a first and a easy ( relative to the history of swapping) one. You could then run a Front Mount Inter-cooler and have a sleek sleeper. Point being don't think that LGT.com is full of negative members that will always say NO or buy a LGT. And hell you might even discover something about a turbo conversion for the entire 2.5i community. Someone has to do it at some point in time and with the first 4th generation legacies aging swaps and conversions are becoming more cost friendly to all and the front runners will take the brunt of the hate but you can say that "I did it". They told me i couldnt mod a Stock EL to UEL I did that first, they said LGT systems wouldnt fit in a 2.5i I did them ALL they said there was a difference btwn piping sizes I measured. Let us know where you stand with parts, ideas, etc and the ones that are willing to help will do so what you dont understand is that 99.99% of the 2.5i owners who start posts wnating to "turb" their cars are people who dont know what they are getting in to or whats invloved. they think that they can buy a bunch of bolt on parts have someone install them and off they go. its never that simple and its never as cheap as you think, epsecially if you arent doing the labor yourself. the 2.5i is NOT meant to be turbo'ed and doing so is dancing on the edge of reliability, and the fact that you have heard of a couple cars with kits running around does not making it any more reliable. And im not just taling about the engine but the whole drive line. are you prepared to replace a broken trans, burnt out clutch or engine block after you spent ~5k$ on the turbo project that could add up to nearly 10K$ with labor if somthing goes really wrong? and if its a dialy driver, you have to deal with the downtime on top of that which can cost even more if you have to rent a car. It all adds up, and it always adds up to more than you initially calculate. If you can afford all that, then you can afford to sell the 2.5i and get a LGT. no one is bashing anyone, but rather educating on what is really involved when you stat taking about tubocharging a N/A car which happens to be a daily driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Users LieutenantDan Posted November 29, 2009 Mega Users Share Posted November 29, 2009 If you want a ferrari, don't buy a mustang and mod the crap out of it. Buy the car with the goodies that you want on it. Never buy anything with a plan to "fix it up" or to super modify it. Have you ever seen the movie the Money Pit with Tom Hanks? You might want to check it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEE-OTTO Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 This forum is primarily for GT owners THIS SECTION OF THE SITE SAYS Naturally Aspirated Powertrains (2.5i, 3.0R) Man I keep forgetting this is LGT.com how silly of me Creativity associated with non-turbo trims should just be abandoned? The whole point of my response was to give some insight that as the models age swap/conversions become more practical RS guys swap WRX dirve lines all the time and BE series guys do as well. 4th gen is no difference except it is fairly recent as it ages swaps become more practiacl(.) Don't come in here and kick your tubo boots up like you have authority over what can and can't be at least discussed by the non-turbo folk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Tank Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 THIS SECTION OF THE SITE SAYS Naturally Aspirated Powertrains (2.5i, 3.0R) Man I keep forgetting this is LGT.com how silly of me Creativity associated with non-turbo trims should just be abandoned? The whole point of my response was to give some insight that as the models age swap/conversions become more practical RS guys swap WRX dirve lines all the time and BE series guys do as well. 4th gen is no difference except it is fairly recent as it ages swaps become more practiacl(.) Don't come in here and kick your tubo boots up like you have authority over what can and can't be at least discussed by the non-turbo folk You've got a point there. I have a few friends with RS STI swaps and even more that have had half a dozen different engines in their Hondas. I think it would be cool to find a totalled LGT and buy the motor (maybe even the whole drivetrain) and do a swap. Then keep your hood and get a FMIC. You'll probably want some bigger brakes too (maybe some off the totalled LGT), but then you'll need bigger rims to clear them. At that point you'll probably just want to go stage 2 (you've come this far anyway) so an aftermarket UP, DP, CBE are in order. You're probably gonna need some suspension upgrades too (that body roll is pretty bad). Have we fallen down the rabbit hole yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc90ms Posted November 30, 2009 Author Share Posted November 30, 2009 well im a mechanic and iv been turbocharging cars since i was 16. and i do all my work. i can rebuild motors and tranys. the only reason i want to turbo it because the 2.5i are high comp and i want to have easy power at low boost. And i didnt start this thread to ask u if i should buy a gt or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katalyst Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 to date i don't know of any 2.5i that has been successfully boosted either through super or turbocharging most don't even attempt because it's not cost effective and most of the 2.5i vehicles on here are DDs with the occasional weekend auto-x warrior and it's just too impractical with cost of down time and reliability issues. although that's not to say there are a good handful of 2.5i owners that are patiently waiting for the avo turbo kit to come out along with an accessport for ECM mgmt. and really that's probably the best way to go. but that means upping the clutch etc cause the OEM clutch is only made for stock power levels. i mean theoretically you could swap in an entire GT drivetrain but then as others have mentioned...should have started with a GT in the first place. 2.5i just isn't really that great of a platform to build from, it is what it is. if anything i think you'd have more fun building out an impreza 2.5RS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmhm17 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 if you boost a 2.5i your never going to stop putting money into it. like stated above everything is going to snowball before you even get started.. i hate to say it bud, but you bought the wrong car.. the 2.5i is not a tunner... these arent dsm's or hondas the aftermarket is very small for the 2.5i.. at most you could make it handel killer, i would say your money would be best spent in that department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 RS guys swap WRX dirve lines all the time and BE series guys do as well. 4th gen is no difference except it is fairly recent as it ages swaps become more practiacl(.) 4th gen IS different. A turbo engine is a factory option. My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Users LieutenantDan Posted December 1, 2009 Mega Users Share Posted December 1, 2009 This has been covered enough times to know it is expensive, labor intensive, and will require lots of fabrication and improvisation. Go turbo some crazy V8 powerplant, not a car that has A TURBOCHARGED FACTORY OPTION. But it's your money and your time. If you don't want to hear any opinions, don't post here. If you want to hear negative and positive comments, don't be a sissy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjl0792 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 ill say swaps and modifying is cool. i just put a tuned port 350 in a cj7. its a pita to do custom stuff, but end results can be amazing. as for the n/a crowd id say a self contained supercharger would be the easiest/ best route. less piping, less heat, better low end torque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GearOnePerformance Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 i feel like we are all members because this is a common hobby....to mess with cars. i say **** it, have fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEE-OTTO Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 4th gen IS different. A turbo engine is a factory option. yeah..... The point is that as the generation ages and becomes cheaper swaps will become more viable. In 2 years i bet a thread about swapping a 05 LGT into a 05 2.5i wont be as outrageous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 KBB.com 2005 LGT w/ 80k and in excellent condition - $11,000.002005 2.5i w/ 80k and in excellent condition - $9,500.00 ($9685 if you want to be picky) that split isn't gonna change much as they age. Can you do any kind of a swap for less than $1500? What do you get when you turbo an RS? A one of a kind car that very few people have. What do you get when you turbo a 2.5i? An LGT. My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEE-OTTO Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 well im a mechanic and iv been turbocharging cars since i was 16. and i do all my work. i can rebuild motors and tranys. the only reason i want to turbo it because the 2.5i are high comp and i want to have easy power at low boost. And i didnt start this thread to ask u if i should buy a gt or not. keep that attitude it is the best way to be sometimes esp when talking about the "S" word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEE-OTTO Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 KBB.com 2005 LGT w/ 80k and in excellent condition - $11,000.00 2005 2.5i w/ 80k and in excellent condition - $9,500.00 ($9685 if you want to be picky) that split isn't gonna change much as they age. Can you do any kind of a swap for less than $1500? Be real dude! When have you seen a Impreza L owner buy a perfectly running used WRX or WRX STi only to swap it ?? You know good and well that no one wanting to "swap" takes this route stop with the tit for tat posting. The OP isn't an idiot. And yes in theory if you had enough money you could buy a perfectly working LGT and swap it into a 2.5i but the majority of "shade tree" guys wanting to swap tend to look for totaled cars. With that said a totaled 02 WRX isnt worth much at all and in 2012 a totaled 05 LGT wont be worth much either at that point a swap will be more attractive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 i think you're just cranky you didn't get an LGT My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subie2.5i Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I say if someone wants to do this go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc90ms Posted December 1, 2009 Author Share Posted December 1, 2009 i was also think about getting a wrecked gt my buddy goes to salvage auctions and he sees them time to time. they go for 2-4k depending on damage. if theres isn't anything to tune the 2.5i then its not worth it. but what about a piggy back like safc 2? that could do the job but its the wrong way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vi3tguysoflyy91 Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 kbb.com 2005 lgt w/ 80k and in excellent condition - $11,000.00 2005 2.5i w/ 80k and in excellent condition - $9,500.00 ($9685 if you want to be picky) that split isn't gonna change much as they age. Can you do any kind of a swap for less than $1500? What do you get when you turbo an rs? A one of a kind car that very few people have. What do you get when you turbo a 2.5i? An lgt. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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