smokedoutv6 Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 umm... they updated the design to a new revision and sent everyone who had purchased the old ones a new set with no questions asked. those b*stards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimsleeper Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 oh right i forgot to give the bad news... this product may cause genital herpes. use at your own risk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamie700 Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 I'm thinking about the RCK also. My stock LCA bushings are torn, so I will probably get AVO replacements anyway. Question though, in the winter I run stock springs and struts, summer is BC/BR lowered about an inch. Will I run into problems with the RCK when I am at stock ride height? Somebody should write up a how-to, or is there already one out there that I didn't find? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimsleeper Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Other than the tie rod/bj separation there's nothing to it. Disconnect end link, remove fulcrum bushing nut and brace, and bolt/nut holding the smaller LCA bushing to the frame. Nothing that can't be found in the service manual. I'm going to make a thread when I get home from work with my fail safe method for separating ball joints. I do not use 'pickle forks' or pitman pullers - and it consistently takes me no more than 15 minutes per side. The only catch is being able to find a solid steel tapered cylinder:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P06781 Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Other than the tie rod/bj separation there's nothing to it. Disconnect end link, remove fulcrum bushing nut and brace, and bolt/nut holding the smaller LCA bushing to the frame. Nothing that can't be found in the service manual. I'm going to make a thread when I get home from work with my fail safe method for separating ball joints. I do not use 'pickle forks' or pitman pullers - and it consistently takes me no more than 15 minutes per side. The only catch is being able to find a solid steel tapered cylinder:eek: awesome walkthrough please. Have the this coming also.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimsleeper Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Next up is Whiteline caster bits that increase the caster. A must for even better tracking. I saw this on fredbeansparts.com and was curious what the differences were between the AVO offset bushings - they both seem to give about half a degree of positive caster. Whiteline calls it the WALK (Whiteline Anti-lift kit)... maybe not the best acronym for an LCA bushing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator GT Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 damn it, you menacing kids are wreaking havoc on my fiscal well being... $190 for the ROCK and while I was looking, I found the FRONT LCA bushings for another $40....argh! "If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed." - T. Jefferson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimsleeper Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 damn it, you menacing kids are wreaking havoc on my fiscal well being... $190 for the ROCK and while I was looking, I found the FRONT LCA bushings for another $40....argh! If you're looking for the larger fulcrum bushing that's the wrong one. This is the smaller front bushing on the LCA, you probably want the rear bushings for the front LCA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator GT Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 If you're looking for the larger fulcrum bushing that's the wrong one. This is the smaller front bushing on the LCA' date=' you probably want the rear bushings for the front LCA. Noooo, I already have the AVO ver2 LCA rear bushings. the smaller front bushing is what I meant. "If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed." - T. Jefferson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimsleeper Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Noooo, I already have the AVO ver2 LCA rear bushings. the smaller front bushing is what I meant. ahhh ok nvm then. seems to be a common (and honest) mistake, just wanted to make sure you weren't gettin the wrong one:) I thought about picking up the smaller one as well but wasn't sure there would be much of a gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZP Installs Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Noooo, I already have the AVO ver2 LCA rear bushings. the smaller front bushing is what I meant. How are those rear bushings? I'm thinking of doing them on my car, didn't realize they even had em. Where did you get em? -mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator GT Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 How are those rear bushings? I'm thinking of doing them on my car, didn't realize they even had em. Where did you get em? -mike RalliTek. They really solidified the steering and accuracy of the car. But...I also have the WL steering rack bushings...so my review isn't ENTIRELY based on JUST the AVO LCA rear bushings. "If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed." - T. Jefferson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisan Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Oh you mean rear of the front LCA? I have those offset ones already. I didn't know they offered front ones though. I'll check out rallitek's page and see what ones I don't have yet. -mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator GT Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 mike, yes, the rear bushings of the front LCA. Yeah, the front bushings of the front LCA was news to me too as of yesterday. "If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed." - T. Jefferson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisan Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 cool, I'm going to look into those front ones. Thanks for the heads up. -mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimsleeper Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Oh you mean rear of the front LCA? I have those offset ones already. I didn't know they offered front ones though. I'll check out rallitek's page and see what ones I don't have yet. -mike I don't think Rallitek carries these yet (at least not on the site), they showed up on fredbeansparts just recently HERE. For under $40 I guess you can't really go wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo08816 Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 I'm thinking about the RCK also. My stock LCA bushings are torn, so I will probably get AVO replacements anyway. Question though, in the winter I run stock springs and struts, summer is BC/BR lowered about an inch. Will I run into problems with the RCK when I am at stock ride height? Somebody should write up a how-to, or is there already one out there that I didn't find? Same question here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZP Installs Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 I ran my car for a year at stock height with the rck installed. It'd rant hurt the handling and is still an improvement. You need to realign after changing ride heights though. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Peterson Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 It'd rant hurt the handling and is still an improvement. I think I can figure out what "rck" is, but I'm lost about what ↑↑↑ is trying to say. Norm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tito_b0y Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 "It can't hurt the handling and is still an improvement." 2006 SWP 3.0R 5EAT VDC BBQ 2008 OBP 2.5i 4EAT BBQ [RIP] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZP Installs Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 "It can't hurt the handling and is still an improvement." Correct. WTF, must have been using the 8086 again! -mike http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/91072632.jpg http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/133406601.jpg AIM: AZP Installs | E-mail: sales@azpinstalls.com | 725 Fairfield Ave | Kenilworth, NJ 07033 | 908.248.AZP1(2971)| T-1 Certified Amsoil Direct Dealer "Race Tested, Enthusiast Approved!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Peterson Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Seems to me that raising the front geo roll center is going to dial in a bit more understeer. Whether that's really a good thing is open to question, but at least it's generally associated with a benign shift in handling. Norm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmanaenk Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Seems to me that raising the front geo roll center is going to dial in a bit more understeer. Whether that's really a good thing is open to question, but at least it's generally associated with a benign shift in handling. Norm It does not. It will result in less roll = less suspension compression = better camber curve. If will actually reduce understeer. 666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Peterson Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 There are effects that work in both directions. ↑↑↑ is one. The increase in front LLTD through the roll centers goes up, which is an understeer effect that begins even before any roll has developed. It also makes the car slightly less "tune-able", and increases the jacking tendencies. Norm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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