rosscarlson Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Guys, I did some searching but couldn't find anything about this. I'm reading a bit about the Whiteline Roll-Center & Bump-Steer Kit and am not sure if it's something I should do or not. My car is lowered (K-Sport Coilovers) and I'm already putting on Whiteline front/rear sways and Perrin endlinks. I'm also going to do a short throw shifter (I track my car quite a lot). Thoughts? Good upgrade? Anyone done it? -Ross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FocuS Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 I'm doing the Whiteline kit on Sat. I'll let you know what I think. I figured it was good $$$ spent as I already needed new ball joints and the tie-rod ends seemed like a good idea for our lowered suspention geometry I'm lowered on Tein Flexs', Cusco F&R braces, and AVO Offset LCAs...no sways yet but that will be the next mod... Let me know what you think of the Whiteline sways...not too many other peeps on here have them and I'd like a set as they were great on my '02 GT... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisan Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 I have the Whiteline sways w/the Kartboy endlinks and they are great. I've been running them on the softest setting for now and I also run the whiteline roll center and AVO offset LCA Bushings. I do a lot of track events, so I'm looking forward to testing it out next weekend at Pocono and Watkins Glen. You can see all the mods on my car and some track pictures at: http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=109651 -mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 I have the Whiteline sways w/the Kartboy endlinks and they are great. I've been running them on the softest setting for now and I also run the whiteline roll center and AVO offset LCA Bushings. Great setup! The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwhillVT Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 I just ordered this kit as well as the AVO LCA bushings, Figured why not, need do do all those parts anyways. Anybody comment on the kit's effectiveness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTGT Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Sub because I am ordering this on Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim1969 Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 I'm doing the Whiteline kit on Sat. I'll let you know what I think. I figured it was good $$$ spent as I already needed new ball joints and the tie-rod ends seemed like a good idea for our lowered suspention geometry I'm lowered on Tein Flexs', Cusco F&R braces, and AVO Offset LCAs...no sways yet but that will be the next mod... Let me know what you think of the Whiteline sways...not too many other peeps on here have them and I'd like a set as they were great on my '02 GT... Impressions of the Whiteline kit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwhillVT Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 I ordered my kit from Fred Beans yesterday afternoon and recieved it just now (less than 24 hours!, cant beat that) Too bad I wont have time to install it for 2 weeks or so. I will post my pains of install as well as my driving impressions when I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimsleeper Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 I installed the Whiteline ROCK last weekend along with the AVO LCA bushings and I'm very happy with the results. I am currently dropped on Cobb springs and felt that before the kit install there was a lot to be desired in the overall balance of the suspension, especially at the point of terminal understeer where the control arm seemed to be pulled into some unnatural positions due to the altered suspension geometry. The bushings did a great job of tightening the steering feel and improving tracking, but I think the ROCK is what really made a difference in improving the rotation of the car and all but eliminating much of the body roll that was still noticeable after the spring install. Bump steer is reduced significantly as well. I'll be taking the LGT to Lime Rock on the 15th of June so I'll have a chance to really test it out. Hopefully the issues that plagued the Whiteline kit early in its release have been fixed with the revised ball joint design. I've been following the nasioc threads and after putting some punishment on the suspension over the last week the ball joint remains firmly in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisan Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 I did 1 day at LRP, 1 day at Poc East, 2 days at WGI, and about 5k miles on my Whiteline ROCK and no issues with it so far. -mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokedoutv6 Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 how difficult of an install is it? anyone make a walk through. i'm assuming you dont need to align the car afterwards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FocuS Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 VERY happy with my Roll-Center/Bump-steer kit and Offset AVO LCA bushings...Takes all the wandering out of the steering now that I've put the 19s back on...Just a bit more NVH but that may be the 19s too... And YES, you do need to align the car afterwards...especially if you do the LCA bush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisan Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Also you'd need to do the alignment due to the tie rod ends being different as well. NVH is up for me, but I also have Group N Motor Mounts, and a bunch of other kartboy and whiteline bushings installed as well. -mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caramall2 Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 I just put in the Whiteline roll ctr and AVO LCAs and was amazed and how much better the car handles larger bumps, railroad tracks, etc, in everyday driving. I think the whole system really properly aligns the suspension. Hitting the track in a few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinlsb Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Guys, I did some searching but couldn't find anything about this. I'm reading a bit about the Whiteline Roll-Center & Bump-Steer Kit and am not sure if it's something I should do or not. My car is lowered (K-Sport Coilovers) and I'm already putting on Whiteline front/rear sways and Perrin endlinks. I'm also going to do a short throw shifter (I track my car quite a lot). Thoughts? Good upgrade? Anyone done it? -Ross Required for lowered suspenisions. Works like a charm. Car tracks better, inceased Gee's on corners, much more stable on bumpy turns. "Belief does not make truth. Evidence makes truth. And belief does not make evidence." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinlsb Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 how difficult of an install is it? anyone make a walk through. i'm assuming you dont need to align the car afterwards? Easy if you can get the tie rod ends out of the hub assembly(aka steering knuckle). The assembly is cast and a frozen tie rod can lead to a broken part. Suggest you spray the outer rod end with lots of penetrating oil a couple of days before you have the work done. "Belief does not make truth. Evidence makes truth. And belief does not make evidence." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteyjr Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 I just did a suspension change as well. AVO LCA bushings and changed from Swifts springs on stock dampers to IONS with Koni's. Surprised at how much the front end changed. Basically did what I expected the front sway bar would do (but didn't). Stright line stability especially at higher speed greatly improved. Reminds me of a BMW suspension . NVH is up but well tolerable . I can feel bumps that used to get soaked up before. There is always a trade off . Whiteline RC kit up next. Tracking the car this weekend and really looking forward to surprising some STi's out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim1969 Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Required for lowered suspenisions. Works like a charm. Car tracks better, inceased Gee's on corners, much more stable on bumpy turns. Lowered on bilsteins and pinks. Recommend if only a daily driver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinlsb Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Lowered on bilsteins and pinks. Recommend if only a daily driver? Absolutely, that is just what my wagon is, despite the mods:lol: My mechanic's comment, after the installation was that the car tracked and steered German . IMHO, it was one of the best mods I had done to the suspension.And I only lowered it by about an inch. Next up is Whiteline caster bits that increase the caster. A must for even better tracking. "Belief does not make truth. Evidence makes truth. And belief does not make evidence." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimsleeper Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Absolutely, that is just what my wagon is, despite the mods:lol: My mechanic's comment, after the installation was that the car tracked and steered German . IMHO, it was one of the best mods I had done to the suspension.And I only lowered it by about an inch. Next up is Whiteline caster bits that increase the caster. A must for even better tracking. +1, mine is a DD as well and as conrny as it sounds the ROCK gave me a 'connection' to the car that I did not feel before. One of the first things I thought to myself after installing is 'this feels like a Bimmer'. I had to let my friends drive it so they didn't think I was full of s*&t:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 I also noticed an improvement (reduction) in bump steer after installing the RCK with my Konis/Swifts. I did this at the same time as my AVO LCA bushings and it was a very worthwhile combo. The car tracks much better than before with little or no bump steer. The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTGT Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 A local shop quoted me $250 for the install of the Whiteline RCK. That is One hundred more than I can buy the kit for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FocuS Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 The install is SUPER easy! All you need is a jack, stands, and normal hand tools. The hardest part will be getting the old Ball joints out without breaking anything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokedoutv6 Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 ok all these positive responses are making it tough for me not to buy these. come on someone say SOMETHING bad about them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 umm... they updated the design to a new revision and sent everyone who had purchased the old ones a new set with no questions asked. The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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