usjdmtuner Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 guys i just picked up 98 legacy 2.5 and possibly blow headgasket or some slow leak... bubbles on coolant reservoir and white smoke when on first.... i have two options: 1.) rebuild engine: headgasket kit timing belt waterpump head deck and resurfaced change all seals tune up cost: doing labor myself but head need to be sent out for machining probably around $1000 with parts and machining 2). swap this JDM motor... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p3907.m29&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26its%3DI%26otn%3D2&item=250395385903&category=33615&viewitem= this seems like a really good deal and why dont i see alot of people swap this motor on their legacy...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOMSWGN Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 This is coming from overseas. I assume you are stateside. Shipping would be killer even if the seller is trustworthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 The JDM twin turbo engine WILL NOT FIT in a USDM car without a lot of work. Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usjdmtuner Posted April 3, 2009 Author Share Posted April 3, 2009 thats including shipping already... if you check the link above... why wouldnt it fit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reuben Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Buy it, convert it to single turbo, enjoy your subie the way it was meant to be enjoyed; with a 2L turbo. You will not regret it, go over to NASIOC and research what is required for the swap. On a technical note, it won't fit cause the primary turbo conflicts wit the LHD steering rack. That's the least of your worries with a twin turbo though, they are more trouble than they are worth. Converting to a single turbo solve ALL these problems. A single turbo is easy to work on, easy to work with, easy to modify, cheap to modify, and easy to drive. The conversion is extremely simple - i have even written a How-To on it on another forum should you go ahead with the purchase. The great thing about the TT is that it's much cheaper to buy than a STi engine, yet the manual GTB motors are more or less identical (Same heads and internals and loom etc.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usjdmtuner Posted April 3, 2009 Author Share Posted April 3, 2009 Thanks for your quick response . I'm atwork using iPhone and have no access to fast connection so can anyone tell me: -would this motor be reliable after converting to single turbo? -I assume I have to use harness and ecu from the motor... -what parts should be changed score swap?(clutch, tune up, timing belts? -would this be the most cost effective swap for my wagon(snow,long drives) -my budget should be less 2k -which turbo manifold for single turbo... -why is it more pain than the cheap price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usjdmtuner Posted April 3, 2009 Author Share Posted April 3, 2009 -would I be able to buy parts oem here locally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 -would I be able to buy parts oem here locally? LOL what do you think ? be real. Unless you have a ton of money, buy a engine from a local junk yard, have it rebuilt to your liking and install it. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Sorry for the double post, can't edit from work. If you think you can rebuild your's for $1,000.00 go ahead. IMO it will be at least double that by the time you figure in and buy all the small nickle and dime stuff. There are a lot of things you need. Do more research, talk to local machine shops. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reuben Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 -would I be able to buy parts oem here locally? For a single turbo conversion? Yep. Most parts can be bought aftermarket, or second hand from old WRX's. The one thing you'll need from overseas is an STi ECU though. I have sent one before (to denver) for the same exact purpose, shippings aboout $30, the ECU's about $50-100 Btw, max capacity, it's not THAT bad, you can do it with mostly USDM parts. I managed to convert mine to single turbo for $1000 NZ, including turbo ECU and exhaust etc. etc. Maybe it'd cost $1000 US in the states? Here's the list of parts need, this stolen from that conversion thread i was talking about. A Compatible Version STi ECU (in the case of a 208, that's a V5 or 6 STi ECU) A turbo. Such as a VF22, 24, 30, 34, 39 etc etc. From a single turbo subaru - Modern legacy turbo's don't work. Single turbo Coolant supple and return lines. You can make your own Single turbo Oil return line (rubber pipe) There is a pipe from the TT system you can use, but it's short and cut's things fine. Single turbo Oil return line (Metal pipe in block) This will be one hard SoB to find, but you need it for a tidy job. Single turbo exhaust manifold. Up-pipe Downpipe. Single turbo up-pipe bracket. To be safe, not really needed. Single turbo intercooler Y pipe. Anything from V3/4 and 5/6 will work Turbo outlet to Y pipe hose - should come with the intercooler Y-Pipe, there's aftermarket options too. Turbo Inlet/intake pipe Crank case breather line (easy to make your own) Bolts to block off the primary turbo's Oil supply, return and coolant return lines on the left hand head Gaskets for: Intake manifold *Throttle body (only $3) Exhaust manifold Turbo/up-pipe Turbo/downpipe Coolant Oil Oil filter + Sump plug washer for your oil change These items aren't required but recomended. *BOV Return line from a V5/6 *Single turbo solenoid bracket (This is so you can replace the BBoD) *Pressure select solenoid (a 3 port solenoid from a single turbo, this is only to tidy up the wiring, you actually already have one in the BBoD that you can use - but it has a great big plug with like 15 wires.) *Silicone radiator hoses *Silicone coolant hoses (nows a good time to replace them! .... They tend to split with age...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEE-OTTO Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Rebuild and be happy unless youre feeling froggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 For a single turbo conversion? Yep. Most parts can be bought aftermarket, or second hand from old WRX's. The one thing you'll need from overseas is an STi ECU though. I have sent one before (to denver) for the same exact purpose, shippings aboout $30, the ECU's about $50-100 Btw, max capacity, it's not THAT bad, you can do it with mostly USDM parts. I managed to convert mine to single turbo for $1000 NZ, including turbo ECU and exhaust etc. etc. Maybe it'd cost $1000 US in the states? Here's the list of parts need, this stolen from that conversion thread i was talking about. QUOTE] I've been playing with turbo'd Honda's for abour 6 years. Boost is addictive. addivitve=$$$$ OP, Good luck either way. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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