dx32v Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I am going to be running the Accessport and a perrin uppipe which would be Stage 1.5 if Im not mistaking. I have a K&N drop in filter that I also wanted to install but I've read that it requires a tune for it. My question was would a tuned drop in filter or aftermarket intake give any power increase or is it just to have the car run right? I've seen someone recommend TA Tuning for a map, any other recommendations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regal05LGT Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 You don't need a tune for a drop in....CAI or short ram you'd require tuning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dx32v Posted March 11, 2009 Author Share Posted March 11, 2009 Is there a gain with a tuned aftermarket intake system at this stage though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbrjason Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Is there a gain with a tuned aftermarket intake system at this stage though? Not really, and depending on the intake you could even see some loss.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow05gtRI Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 You don't need a tune for a drop in....CAI or short ram you'd require tuning i disagree. panel filters have been shown to (sometimes) lean out the car. it varies for a lot of people. if you're gonna change ANYTHING on your intake system get a tune for it to be safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous1 Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 You don't need a tune for a drop in....CAI or short ram you'd require tuning Technically a drop in does require a tune, I have seen it alter fuel up to half a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regal05LGT Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Technically a drop in does require a tune, I have seen it alter fuel up to half a point. I did not know that, learn something everyday lol.....first statement withdrawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireB Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Cobb Stage 2 OTS and AVO Panel did lean the AFR to a semi-dangerous area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroArek Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 I just flashed my cars stage 1 from cobb ....can I put short or cold air intake with k&n filter on this maps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spec B Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 ^ Yes...but you are probably going to run lean and not make more power. You should skip the intake or get a tune for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroArek Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 but cobb dont have tune for intake ...only stock intake maps , maby iam wrong ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow05gtRI Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 he's saying "sure you can put it on, but your car probably wont run right" ... or you can get a tuner to make a map for the AP that is tuned for your intake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Panel filters need a tune? You cant be serious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbrjason Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Panel filters need a tune? You cant be serious... Need a tune? Probably not.. Can benefit and be safer with a tune, certainly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Well now im ganna worry... what exactley is so harmful about a lean running engine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow05gtRI Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 I *think* it is most harmful at WOT, but this is just me making deductions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spec B Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Running too lean causes very high EGT's and leads to detonation, which can lead to broken ringlands. I honestly think running an intake on a basic stage 1 is not as horrible as everyone thinks it is, but i would not risk it with stage 2 or higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireB Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 running too lean causes very high egt's and leads to detonation, which can lead to broken ringlands. I honestly think running an intake on a basic stage 1 is not as horrible as everyone thinks it is, but i would not risk it with stage 2 or higher. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regal05LGT Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Running too lean causes very high EGT's and leads to detonation, which can lead to broken ringlands. I honestly think running an intake on a basic stage 1 is not as horrible as everyone thinks it is, but i would not risk it with stage 2 or higher. +2 I ran a short ram for a while stage 1 and 2 before getting a tune and no issues to report Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingtang Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 Well now im ganna worry... what exactley is so harmful about a lean running engine? detonation?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingtang Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 i switched from a spt short ram to a aem cai and ive had no issues... havent had a chance to log.. but it was protuned with the shortram... i do get alot LESS exhaust pops though... meaning it did lean my car a little.. but i think they were pumpin too much fuel?? as for my tune... i dont have the wideband installed yet... but according to the AP at WOT its at 11... so it could be lower or since i do not have wideband that could mean nothing... i dunno... my car does feel alittle slow on the low end.. but it feels like it pulls harder on the top.. could just be my imagination though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoobie Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 ^ AEM much quiter than the SPT tingtang? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingtang Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 WAYYYY quieter... the SPT whistled everywhere i went..... after installin the cai i can barely hear turbo spool... of course thats comparing it to the SPT i had on there... i do miss the sound of the turbo spooling... if your trying to go quiet i would go aem cai... but if u like that turbo spooling sound i wouldnt suggest SPT.. cuz they suck.. but the k&n typhoon... heard that one was really good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow05gtRI Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 i can hear my turbo spooling nicely with my AEM, along with the BOV and suction. just cant have the radio really loud, thats the nice thing. hear it when you want to or listening for it. you may not feel like the AEM is hurting your car, but that is going to lean it out, and probably lean it out too far. I'd suggest an re-tune.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingtang Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 That doesn't really make anysense... I live in co.. and weather can change 50 degrees from morning to afternoon... especially in the mountains... meaning even with my spt tuned if it was freezing outside it would take in cold air.... now on the other hand when ur sittin there in traffic it will suck in warm/hot air until u get moving again... my a/f have actually dropped .3-.5 when not in boost after I put on the cai... and I know the AP doesn't read that accurately or measure in boost... but the ecu can at WOT and my AP shows 11... which I believe is AP lowest... I've used AP with both intakes to see just so I can get a idea... but ur right... I should get it re tuned just incase but its not cheap.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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