ifbiker Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 Give a good read to the rule books, change the rear sway bar and you will end up in STU. As far as tires you might want to look into Dunlop Direzza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPerron Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 I am currently setting up my car to run it in D stock auto x. Anyone else daring this? I have a set of Hoosiers and a 25mm Perrin front swaybar so far. Car has drastically improved handling wise the bar. The bar creates nice oversteer which makes the car all the more controllable. I have yet to run on the Hoosiers though. Last year i ran on Dunlop Star Spec's and was doing very well. You must mean "rear" sway bar. Can't believe on one else caught bthis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightyS Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 Living Legacy: Lighter and wider wheels will help greatly with acceleration. The tire size must be 245 wide or less to avoid moving up in class. There are several good street tires so you don't need the race compound tires. They let you drive with the windows up? We have to have the front windows down. Plus it is too hot to have all the windows up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th3Franz Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 You must mean "rear" sway bar. Can't believe on one else caught bthis. Front sway + aggressive alignment + tire pressure = lift off oversteer if done right. The Legacy can be in a few different classes depending on mods: D-stock, STU, ESP, SM I'm in ESP which is a race tire class but I just autox to have fun and I mod the car more for HPDE anyway. -Franz The end of a Legacy http://www.youtube.com/th3franz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 IMO ESP is the best class for the LGT. Race tires and a front diff FTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Living Legacy Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 Living Legacy: Lighter and wider wheels will help greatly with acceleration. The tire size must be 245 wide or less to avoid moving up in class. There are several good street tires so you don't need the race compound tires. They let you drive with the windows up? We have to have the front windows down. Plus it is too hot to have all the windows up. I'm running 235/40 RE-01R's and most clubs around here let you run with the windows up. Th3Franz why have I not seen you auto X, where do you go? Thanks for the classing info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th3Franz Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 I used to run with the Madison club but I mostly run with the Fox Valley club now. If time permits, maybe I'll do some more events with the Madison club and at Miller Park. -Franz The end of a Legacy http://www.youtube.com/th3franz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmanaenk Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 New season is soon, so I'm gonna bump this. So what's the largest FSB out there? I used to run an 1" thick one in my previous two subies and would probably like something similar, but might opt for smth adjustable. I figured that it would be my only mod for now, along with alignment. And maybe some new tires (and wheels if I could find anything worthy) once I kill the stockers some time over the summer. 666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubyShop.com Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 I think the Whiteline adjustable FSB would be your best bet.-Franz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmanaenk Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 ^ do you know if BSF30XZ part, that is 24mm adjustable, fits LGT? It's only listed for 08+ WRX in the whiteline catalog. 666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Living Legacy Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Yep...I think this year it's time to get a better alignment and FSB... Franz, are you talking about the 22mm adjustable whiteline? I see that you can source this for us through subyshop.com, are there any bigger adjustable sways for the legacy (that you know of or can get)? Is this sway bar hollow or solid? Why do you suggest this one in particular? EDUCATE ME!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmanaenk Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Whiteline - means solid. 22mm adjustable probably means that it has a 24mm setting? 666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubyShop.com Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 The whiteline bars are solid. The bar is physically 22 mm thick, but since it is adjustable you can adjust the mechanical advantage on the bar to effectively get a different rate. Perrin makes solid 25mm adjustable bars for the LGT, also. I run Cusco solid bars (23/21) on my personal LGT but Clint really likes the Whiteline ones for his STI. The Whiteline sways fit great and have a durable finish. They would be my recommendation (front & rear) for street tires. The Perrins are a good option if you absolutely need sway bars that big, but keep in mind that a 25mm front and 16mm stock rear bar might not get the balance you want, even with the improvements to the dynamic camber curve. The Legacy bars fit the 08+ WRX hatch, so I would guess that the 24mm Whiteline front bar would fit the Legacy GT, but I have not confirmed it.-Franz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05Boost Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 BlackGT05: Did you let me ride passanger in your car one of the winter series at the ballpark last year? Im trying to get into autox this season if i can ever figure out the errors with my speed sensors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmanaenk Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 The Legacy bars fit the 08+ WRX hatch, so I would guess that the 24mm Whiteline front bar would fit the Legacy GT, but I have not confirmed it. -Franz I just asked them on their forum. They say it will fit, they just don't recommend it for some other reasons. 666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Well, due to the Cusco H brace (under brace) I'm now in FP and was bumped to XP yesterday and took that class (which had a ford 5.0 powered Volvo 240 wagon). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmanaenk Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Did a search but couldn't find exact answer: What's a good target for maximum negative camber up front on a stock kingofcars spec.b suspension? Need this is in case the alignment shop gets too lazy and does not try hard enough to get me close to the right ballpark. 666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubyShop.com Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 At stock ride height if you get camber bolts, you might be able to get a little more than -1 camber up front.. -1.2 on a good day probably-Franz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmanaenk Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 And with no camber bolts? D-stock, remember? 666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Living Legacy Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 At stock ride height if you get camber bolts, you might be able to get a little more than -1 camber up front.. -1.2 on a good day probably -Franz Now that we're on the subject, anyone want to share some insight into their daily driving (alignment) setup? If I recall correctly the last time I got an alignment there was something that wasn't adjustable... Also, regarding camber, I thought I had my camber around -1 (everything is stock). I expected to have abnormal wear, but I ended up wearing out the outsides of the tires (likely due to auto X and nasty turns). Does this seem likely? Aside from suspension work or eliminating auto X, is there any other way to cure this? Thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 at -1 I'm eating up the tires even but a bit more on the inside. getting ready to replace the street set now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmanaenk Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 ^ what's your toe? And any chance you remember how much camber you had on stock suspension, if you ever ran such? In general I think 1-1.5 negative camber shouldn't show-up in tire wear on the inside edge, unless there's toe-out. 666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubyShop.com Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I ran -1.9 camber, 1/8th toe out at the front last summer and the tire wear was perfectly even. Rotating tires helps a lot too. I would rotate after each major track day.-Franz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifbiker Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Living Legacy With a stock set up the outside of the tires, especially up front with soft tires, will wear out pretty quick. Last summer I ran stock springs, Direzzas, camber bolts up front with about -1.0 camber and 0 toe. I ran an autocross event for a day and a half on an aggressive concrete surface and the outside shoulder of the front tire became heavily worn. During the run I also noticed the outside of the tire was much hotter than the inside which would be expected from the observed wear. Obviously the front tires were tilted out during most of the run. There are 2 ways to cure the problem, keep the stock springs and run camber plates up front to get more static camber or increase spring rate to help minimize front dive and dynamic camber loss. I ended up running stiffer springs but have not run the car on the track to see what improvements were made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Living Legacy Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 ^ thanks for the info guys. I ran RE-01R's and still seriously wore down the outsides of the tires Once I replace the sway bar/end links I'll get an alignment done to max out the negative camber-Franze, you suggest 1/8th toe out, any other input regarding the alignment? Next thing I'll tackle is the brakes-HPS or HP+ pads on Brembo Blank rotors. I'm also thinking about getting some new wheels (17X7) for some race rubber Gonna be a good year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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