saltysteve Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Funny if you just read the crossed over from TL thread- My sister has the G35x and I was wondering if anyone crossed over from the G35x? The TL was nice in and out but lacks the performance while the G35x is a sick car in(not really the dash to much) and out and has the 3.5 - tons of power plus it has awd! If you just touch the gas your out and then tap the breaks , its stopped! The LGT has posibley a nicer interior. I think the G35x was just as much fun to drive though. I got the feeling the LGT limited was kind of in between the TL and the G35x. It really would be the winner if it had the sti power stock (for the money) The problem when i test drove it was to get anywherejust driving around town I had to mash that gas pedal, the car didnt just go effortlessly. Im not sure how long a car would last beating it up all day long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttlejockey Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 I test drove a few used G35x's before I bought my previous Subaru. I drove the 06 and though the ride was horrible compared to the Subaru on rough back roads. The interiors are comparable. Gas mileage is terrible on the G35. The 3.5 is a really nice motor. Tons of torque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Power Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 I looked at it but not as much room as my car. I have kids so that was a factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acqui Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Are you referring to the '07+ G35? The interior is vastly improved over the previous generation and yes, it's a fantastic motor but when I test drove one, I could swear I saw the petrol needle drop by a quarter after just a few minutes. The TL is a very good car but I think any car with more than 250hp and 250lb/tq going to the front wheels isn't that fun to drive, especially when there are lots of tight turns you have to navigate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefes GT Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 If you are trying to compare the TL and G35x to the LGT your aren't even in the same game. Yes the LGT is nice but is out of its league with these two. The 09 TL hasn't been relaesed yet and will spread the distance even more when it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokedoutv6 Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 my mother has a g35x that she bought on my advice. it really is a solid car, the brakes s*ck but other then that its about as solid as you can get. she's never been a big "car person" but since she's gotten the G she actually talks about how much she loves her car.  having driven both i'll give the nod tot he LGT but that is after at least a stg 1 reflash, without stg 1 i'd give it to the G. The steering on the G feels "diffferent", nice and tight at highway speeds but i dont partivularly car for it when doing local driving, feels too rough for my tastes. that could be the added weight in the front from the AWD system but I'm not entirely sure. the g feels heavier then the lgt when driving if that makes sense. the lgt feels lighter on its feet IMO. both are really great cars and its a tough call between the two, if you plan to mod i'd go the lgt route, if you want to keep the car stock i'd go with the G. FYI this is based on an 05 G35x I couldnt comment on the 07+ G's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltysteve Posted May 9, 2008 Author Share Posted May 9, 2008 yes this is all based on 2005s. While looking for the LGT I noticed there are alot of other cars in that price range that offer more power or this or that. Its all about the money vs comfort and performance. As example I just found a 04 g35x with 36k miles for 18000. I see that and it makes getting the LGT for around 19000 a hard decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltysteve Posted May 9, 2008 Author Share Posted May 9, 2008 I looked at it but not as much room as my car. I have kids so that was a factor. the interior on your LGT is smaller than a G35. The only extra space you would have would be in the trunk if you have a wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Power Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Not from what I saw. I do have the outback wagon, so maybe that factors in it. The car salesman used to sell subarus up here and he said my outback has more room and is a better car. Take that for what it is worth. Made me feel good about my decision though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rountad Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Give me a break. The TL is a kicked-up FWD mommy-mobile and the G35x is auto only. Both cost more than a spec B for less performance and less easy modification possibility. If you want a nice, near-luxury sedan, then either the TL or the G35x will fit the bill. If you want a driver's sedan, then the Legacy GT or GT spec B is a much better choice, IMO. Or if you want the near-luxury AND performance, the G35S. If you are trying to compare the TL and G35x to the LGT your aren't even in the same game. Yes the LGT is nice but is out of its league with these two. The 09 TL hasn't been relaesed yet and will spread the distance even more when it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefes GT Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Give me a break. The TL is a kicked-up FWD mommy-mobile and the G35x is auto only. Both cost more than a spec B for less performance and less easy modification possibility. If you want a nice, near-luxury sedan, then either the TL or the G35x will fit the bill. If you want a driver's sedan, then the Legacy GT or GT spec B is a much better choice, IMO. Or if you want the near-luxury AND performance, the G35S.  Where does the LGT have more performance than a TL-S or G35x? The TL and G35x have more factory power, better braking, better handling, and better MPGs. Yes they cost more because they are luxory sport sedans from luxory brands. When you option out the LGT to get close to the options standard on the TL-S or G35x you not to far off in price. Resale on both the TL-S and G35x are much better (% of retail) than the LGT. Total cost of ownership is much less as well. Check craigslist for each of the three vehicles listed and you will see a huge inventory of LGTs compared to a very small inventory of the other two. Again I will not argue that the LGT is a great car. Just not in the same league as Acura or Infiniti. BTW I have driven all of these cars recently. The TL-s and G35 are much sportier than the LGT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted May 11, 2008 Share Posted May 11, 2008 It wasnt an xi, or a manual, but me and my 06 spec.b with 4 people in it, pulled half a car length on an automatic g35 coupe of my coworkers today with 4 people also, we have done multiple races, and my car has pretty muched toped them all, we only go to about 70 however, but it seems like he starts too pull after that but hasnt been proven yet. But with my invidia dp, and hks silent power on order that will all be over soon... Get an lgt. Having a nice car everybody else has is alright, but having a car that very few people have exposure too, and seeing there amazment as they have been introduced to the beloved lgt is priceless. I love my car, and I almost love the fact that nobody else has it more... Get an lgt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rountad Posted May 11, 2008 Share Posted May 11, 2008 It has more performance in the real world when stock (than the TL) and WAY more performance when modified to only stage 2 (than either the TL or the G35x). The rated hp is higher, but a TL cannot keep up with a stock Legacy except at high speeds in great conditions. Once the legacy is modified, even staying lower in total cost than the TL, then the TL couldn't keep up at all. Any perceived weakness in the LGT can be handled fairly easily (stay out of boost for MPG, brake pad upgrade, better tires, etc...). A TL will always have torque steer unless you fundamentally change its drivetrain. As before, the TL is a nice, near-luxury car. The LGT is a driver's car. Where does the LGT have more performance than a TL-S or G35x? The TL and G35x have more factory power, better braking, better handling, and better MPGs. Yes they cost more because they are luxory sport sedans from luxory brands. When you option out the LGT to get close to the options standard on the TL-S or G35x you not to far off in price. Resale on both the TL-S and G35x are much better (% of retail) than the LGT. Total cost of ownership is much less as well. Check craigslist for each of the three vehicles listed and you will see a huge inventory of LGTs compared to a very small inventory of the other two. Again I will not argue that the LGT is a great car. Just not in the same league as Acura or Infiniti. BTW I have driven all of these cars recently. The TL-s and G35 are much sportier than the LGT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTATV Posted May 11, 2008 Share Posted May 11, 2008 My buddy had an 04 TL and after taking him for a ride in my 06 Spec.b first thing he said was "man my TL was a quick car with the 6 speed but this thing would destroy it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viber Posted May 11, 2008 Share Posted May 11, 2008 Yes they cost more because they are luxory sport sedans from luxory brands. When you option out the LGT to get close to the options standard on the TL-S or G35x you not to far off in price.  . Are you on drugs? For one the TL-S lacks AWD so who cares. Instantly eliminated. FWD sucks, especially in luxury class, and it's no treat to be turned back off the mountain and losing a ski day because your car lacks AWD. Plus it's 40k loaded, again, without AWD, or at the very least RWD As for the G35x, you're looking at 43k loaded, which is about 10k more than a loaded LGT. For that, why settle, I'll just get a BMW3, which isnt as ugly A fully loaded LGT with Navigation, is only 33.5K, throws in AWD and still has a faster 0-60 time than the G35x and the TL-S. Not bad for Subaru's first entry lux effort. If Subaru were to go balls out with a 40k sport the LGT would probably have STI-esque numbers meaning 0-60 in < 5 seconds and 13.6 ¼ making the G35x and TL-S look pretty pathetic in comparison perfomance wise Subaru LGT Zero to 60 mph: 5.3 sec Standing ¼-mile: 14.1 sec @ 97 mph TL-S Zero to 60 mph: 5.5 sec Standing ¼-mile: 14.1 sec @ 101 mph G35x Zero to 60 mph: 5.4 sec Standing ¼-mile: 14.1 sec @ 100 mph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltysteve Posted May 11, 2008 Author Share Posted May 11, 2008 This debate was about 2005 used cars, not new. It is about the value in what you can get for the money. You can get both or all three (tl, g35, lgt) for 20,000 all day long. So for someone looking to get a nice used car for about that figure and likes luxury but also performance as you can see from the numbers below it makes this a tough choice. Subaru LGT Zero to 60 mph: 5.3 sec Standing ¼-mile: 14.1 sec @ 97 mph TL-S Zero to 60 mph: 5.5 sec Standing ¼-mile: 14.1 sec @ 101 mph G35x Zero to 60 mph: 5.4 sec Standing ¼-mile: 14.1 sec @ 100 mph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmc032 Posted May 11, 2008 Share Posted May 11, 2008 my girlfriend just bought a 2004 TL for 18,000 with 60,000 miles on it. That seems like a good deal. It is a nice car, but not as much fun to drive as my LGT. You feel more "luxurious" in it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z28dreams Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 This debate was about 2005 used cars, not new. It is about the value in what you can get for the money. You can get both or all three (tl, g35, lgt) for 20,000 all day long. So for someone looking to get a nice used car for about that figure and likes luxury but also performance as you can see from the numbers below it makes this a tough choice. Subaru LGT Zero to 60 mph: 5.3 sec Standing ¼-mile: 14.1 sec @ 97 mph TL-S Zero to 60 mph: 5.5 sec Standing ¼-mile: 14.1 sec @ 101 mph G35x Zero to 60 mph: 5.4 sec Standing ¼-mile: 14.1 sec @ 100 mph Ya, I didn't realize the TL-S was so close in performance. I knew the G35 was right on par. The problem though - is that there is a huge price difference. Yes, they can all be had for under 20k, but we are still talking a 25% so price increase over an LGT. This is what mostly decided it for me. Check it out: 2005 LGT Limited, 36k miles (edmunds TMV clean) = $17,585 2005 G35x, 36k miles (edmunds TMV clean) = $21,106 2005 G35 coupe, 36k miles (edmunds TMV clean) = $22,210 2005 TL (no S option), 36k miles (edmunds TMV clean) = $20,307 (take about $2k off each for 'average' condition) No matter how you look at it, you're spending an extra $3000-$4000 for a non-subaru option. (15-25% more) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltysteve Posted May 12, 2008 Author Share Posted May 12, 2008 thats true 2005 LGT Limited, 36k miles (edmunds TMV clean) = $17,585 2005 G35x, 36k miles (edmunds TMV clean) = $21,106 2005 G35 coupe, 36k miles (edmunds TMV clean) = $22,210 2005 TL (no S option), 36k miles (edmunds TMV clean) = $20,307 but if you shop around that 25% can lowered to about 15% tha lgt is more rare so the price really wont drop lower than the above and i cant find a lgt limited anywhere in my area at a dealer for that price but i can find the g35s all day long for that price (22,000) so really for the money is the G35x 2005 the way to go? if the economy gets any worse im getting a beater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbone Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Well, I can say I was in this position when choosing if I wanted the LGT, G35 or Z. The Z fell off right off the bat due to lack of AWD and crappy interior compared to the other two. The G also fell out of the picture because it was more expensive and even though it had a nicer interior, it had too many common parts with my 3rd gen Nissan Altima. And speaking of the Altima, the 2005 G35x didn't feel a heck of a lot faster than my Alty due to awd and being on a heavier platform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeTrout Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 I test drove the new G (not the X - automatic, ew!) before finalizing my decision on the 07 spec.B. On paper, it is an amazing car. Great engine, gorgeous looks, fantastic interior. Problem is, in reality, it manages to fall short. In person, it doesn't look nearly as good (compared to the LGT, which looks bland in studio lighting but livens up quite a bit in person). The interior, that looks great through a DSLR lens from the back seat, is too busy when you're driving. Then you start the car and drive, and it's just OK. It goes, but there's no excitement. It corners competently, but it's just too sedate. That's what some people want. Not for me, though. Ich bin echt viel netter, wenn ich nuechtern bin. Echt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan007CT Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 mmmm G35 my fav car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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